Eli Goes to PAX, and Lives to Tell the Tale

This past weekend, I attended the Penny Arcade Expo. It was absolutely incredible. There were PC, console, and tabletop game tournaments, panel discussions, an exhibitor room (think E3 lite), concerts, freeplay, prizes, and the OMEGATHON II.

I went to see how truly large game tournaments are run, specifically to get some ideas on how to handle our recent influx of new players, and to do a little of what adults call 'networking'. Also, to play some games. Read on for complete details.

Friday, I arrived in Seattle, checked in, and joined the stream of geeks flowing up the street toward the Meydenbauer Center in downtown Bellevue. The doors were supposed to open to preregistrants at 3:00, and it was about 2:50. There was a line stretching down the street and around the block, past a Dairy Queen that must have thought it died and went to heaven. A guy next to me waiting to cross the street looked at the line and said, "I'm glad I preregistered," thinking it meant he got to skip the line. He figured out soon enough that the line was only for people who had preregistered, and hiked back to the end of the line somewhere around Vancouver.

While waiting for the doors to open, I made my first PAX discovery: the Nintendo DS becomes something truly awesome in a DS-rich environment. There were pictochat rooms going all the time, no matter where you were... in the line, in the theater, at lunch, even during the concerts. Pictochat became a sort of live commentary track for the whole event, with people getting downloadable games together on the fly (Meteos was most common). You could just put your DS into download mode and see 2 or 3 games people were offering for wireless play. I played Meteos, Bomberman DS, Advance Wars, and something in Japanese I later figured out was Puyo Puyo Fever. You could also see many people 'petting' or making baby talk to their newly-acquired Nintendogs.

I registered for the Super Smash Brothers and Mario Kart Double Dash tournaments... by writing my name on a piece of paper. It was so quaint and refreshing... given the way we IT geeks do things, I can honestly say it never before occurred to me. However, they have some approaches at PAX that we really can't take at AADL-GT Tournaments, for example, they close registration completely up to an hour before the event begins to give them time to do the data entry. If you miss the registration deadline, that's that. Also, most tournaments are pool-based, single-elimination, reducing greatly the need for the kind of record-keeping we do during a tournament.

For example, for Super Smash Brothers, each of the 24 stations was assigned a 16-person pool. After filling the empty pool spots with standby players, they made brackets for each pool and players played a 1v1, best 2 out of 3, 4-stock, 6-minute time limit match, with items set to low, some banned items, and some banned stages. Only the winner of the pool advanced to the next round. I got eliminated in my first match against a master Ness player. I was DK first, then Link, and both times I had him down to his last life when I lost.

Friday Night's concert, after a showing of the 1989 Fred Savage and Super Mario Bros. 3 Vehicle The Wizard, included The Videogame Pianist, Transformers-obsessed hiphop band Optimus Rhyme, and the The NESkimos. Lovecraftian Rock Band The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets canceled at the last minute.

Saturday morning, the exhibit room opened, and we stumbled in to find a real, genuine, E3-style Nintendo Booth, with 10 DS stations, 4 GBA stations, 6 small gamecube stations and 2 Huge ones. All sorts of unreleased games were playable, including Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess! It was the E3 demo, and while I love the Wind Waker style, the new realistic Zelda look will undoubtedly be less reviled by the legions of 'mature' rabid gamers with poor taste who think that bright colors are only acceptable for children. Regardless, the game is naturally amazing. Also playable were Super Mario Baseball and Super Mario Strikers (Soccer), both of which are an absolute blast and are outstanding additions to the Mario Sports lineup. Advance Wars: Under Fire for Gamecube is cool, 3rd person squad-based cartoony warfare, and looks fun, but very very different from the Advance Wars formula. If you like Advance Wars, Fire Emblem (the game Marth and Roy are from) for Gamecube is on the way; it's fantasy turn-based tactics battles, very in-depth, but a bit dry. Mario Kart DS was playable and is absolutely great, featuring great new tracks and best-of-breed weapons; rotating shells, the banana train, and jumping are all back, and the graphics look great on the DS's top screen. The lower screen shows you a zoomed-in overhead view that you can use to dodge shells! You can play 8-player wireless, and rumors persist that you'll be able to play over the internet via Wifi. One guy even said there would be Halo-style stat tracking and ladders, but I think he just made that up. We'll see.

In contrast to Nintendo's booth, Sony had 4 toys-r-us-style kiosks and a couple of card tables, and Microsoft had two tables and a single big TV. Ubisoft actually had a better XBOX booth than Microsoft, showing off some new combat games, a King Kong game that was fun but with a maddening fixed camera, and appearances by the Fragdolls.

Also exhibiting were NCSoft, best known for City of Heros, and Turbine, whose Dungeons and Dragons Online was a fan favorite, especially with all the tabletop gamers in attendance. The Army was there pushing America's Army, complete with Humvee, and Flying Lab Software was exhibiting their new MMORPG, Pirates of the Burning Sea.

On Saturday, we got to watch Gabe and Tycho make Monday's strip after a 'pitch your game idea' panel with several industry veterans. The best idea to come out of that session was probably "France France Revolution". Saturday was also the Mario Kart Double Dash team tournament. They had the 24 stations broken up into 6 4-station Lans, splitscreen, so they had the capacity for 96 simultaneous players driving 48 carts in 6 races, plus 2 extra pools that went after the first round for a total of 64 teams, 128 players. They had planned to have each pool of 8 teams play a 4-race cup, and the top two places from each pool would advance. However, as we know so well, the game does not keep track of any scores in LAN mode. I talked to Zig21, the head of the console tourney room about it, and was able to help them get a quick paper-based scoring system so they could record the scores of 4 races. It was great to have the opportunity to share our Kart tournament expertise, and help out a truly large event, and I think the event went very well, other than the fact that my randomly-assigned partner (because I didn't bring one) and I got knocked out in the first round. The competition was very intense. I actually did play-by-play on the mic for the finals, a set of 8 races, and last year's winning team, Sparkimus Prime, won again. Prizes for all the tournaments at PAX were different numbers of 'tickets' for the prize booth, Chuck-E-Cheese style, only with cool stuff like PSP accessories, games, toys, t-shirts, etc. I saw a brand-new set of Foster's toys that I REALLY WANTED. Oh well.

Saturday night's concert was absolutely amazing. First, Nintendo, on the ball as ever, had handed out little blue flashlights that project the nintendo logo, so the entire theater was filled with dancing Nintendo logos projected onto the walls by the audience. That was the best money they ever spent. The concert started off with Round 4 of the OMEGATHON. The OMEGATHON is an intense tournament for 32 randomly-selected players through all types of games, including tabletop, PC shooters, doubledash, Katamari Damacy, etc. Each round a few people are eliminated. Round 4 was Karaoke Revolution, which is like DDR, only you sing. In front of 2000 people. It was hilarious. The audience cheered the most for the players who sung the worst, and I can sense a surprize round game here.... just kidding, I wouldn't do that to you. However, I do want to try it at a DDR tournament and see if anyone would be interested in a Karaoke Revolution tournament.

After the OMEGATHON sing-off, Pianist Conney Lin played several beautiful, but dull, arrangements of music from Final Fantasy. Then, taking the stage by storm, came the world's 579th greatest rapper, MC Frontalot, inventor and proponent of Nerdcore hiphop, with his band, and personal hype machine, Gelatinous Cube. Front launched his new album at PAX and performed several new tracks, including 'Click Close' about pop up windows, and 'Got Message #419', about Nigerian email scams. MC Frontalot was simply awesome, high energy and suitably geeky in his short sleeve dress shirt, tie, and thick glasses. Next came a rapper who I don't think I can directly mention in this forum. I'll just say that he's the voice of Hesh from Sealab 2021 and MC PeePants from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. He was great, and led the crowd in a rousing chant of 'Nerd Power'. Also notable was his DJ, who pressed one key on his Mac at the start of each song and stood there while it played. Awesome.

However, the best band and the highlight of the evening was the all-powerful Minibosses, whose straightforward power-guitar arrangements of classic NES music stole the show. They closed with Metroid, which was just incredible. These guys are extremely talented players and they know the repertoire well, picking out lesser-known gems like Goonies II for their treatment.

Sunday began with a 'beat the pros' event, where Soul Calibur II Master Zig21 took challengers from the audience. If they could beat him in a single round, they got a $50 gift card. His main character was Astaroth, but after a few wins, he upped the ante and would beat players with their own best characters. He did get beaten a few times, but I think his final record was something like 28-17, and the whole event was just a blast. They then moved onto Halo 2 Team, and challenger teams could attempt to beat some high-ranking Halo players.

The end of Sunday, and of PAX 2005, was the OMEGATHON final round. The Omega Collection was the prize, a $10,000 collection of essentially every NES game, system, and accessory ever produced. Even the obscure and rare ones. It was kept on display in the exhibit room, locked in two enormous cages. Last year, the final round of the OMEGATHON was pong, and as we filed into the theater for the final match, there was lots of buzz, especially in pictochat, about what the game would be. Tycho and Gabe took the stage and revealed this year's final game.... it was COMBAT, for the Atari 2600, first to 2 wins. The match between omeganaughts Coreside and LeRoy was extremely intense, especially with such an amazing prize on the line. In the first match, the older Coreside showed his roots, skunking LeRoy 15-0. The next match, LeRoy got the hang of it and stormed back to tie 8-8. Then LeRoy won a match, setting the stage for an insane finale. The final match started off with Coreside taking a 6 or 7 point lead, but LeRoy came back with several shots in a row to tie it at 10 just as the scores started blinking, which in the old days, meant that your match was almost over. Finally, with the crowd going crazy, Coreside scored a final hit, and won the match, the OMEGATHON, and the entire Omega Collection. WOW.

So, what did I learn? I learned that there isn't a much better way to do Mario Kart tournaments than what were already doing, other than to have more stations or to turn people away. I also learned that if a videogame tournament smells bad, that just means you're doing it right. I learned that if you use Pictochat on your birthday, your DS announces your birthday to every chatroom you enter. I also learned that only Nintendo appreciates how powerful the hardcore can be. I saw Twilight Princess, a Game Boy Micro, AADL-GT DDR master Aaron S, Adult Kart tournament regular Omokusaki's name on the list, Mountains, Nerf capture-the-flag played across the entire hotel, and cases and cases of BAWLZ overcaffeinated soda (it's nasty). I gave AADL-GT Season 1 Grand Championship DVDs to Gabe and Tycho, Zig21, a team from 1UP magazine, the winners of the PAX doubledash tournament, and a few other random people. It was a total blast, and I'm already looking forward to PAX 2006.

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Comments

actully i just found out that i am coming my friends bar-mitsvah is at 8 ><

I think they should tie because it would be more fair but then it would take up more time hmmmmmm... ya we should probley have them tie because that is how i think of the rules in my own little special world and no none of you are invited sorry i had to say that =P

12 more days until the tournament yay =)

"And get your feet off that blasted Samoflan. What the f*** is a Samoflan?"


First off, I think that we shouldn't have a system that creates more ties, but that's just me. If I had to pick, I would say that I think the person who won a single time should win the tie, because they obviously tried hard enough to win. If the person who finished second two times just stalled or something, it wouldn't be fair for them to win. Yeah, their performance has been more consistent, but they never actually won a match.
Like I said, if we don't want to have to worry about this, we should leave the scoring system the way it is right now.
And sorry about the other post thing. I didn't realize that it was viewed by people other than us. Is there any way we can link to the AADL-GT message boards right away? whenever I type in http://www.aadl.org/aadlgt, it just takes me right to the leaderboard stuff. Is there supposed to be a separate message board?

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Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


I think that two 2nds should beat a 1st and a 3rd. Consistency is a better show of skill then a 1st that you may have got from a lucky break.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


Hmm... I think we should try to avoid ties, but it does seem equal. I think I'll have to abstain on this issue. I've already switch arguments in my head enough to cover all three ways, so i just don't know. I'm just going to go play Melee and let Eli tell me what my score is.

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as much as i hate to agree with duck i agree with duck consistincy is better than luck. so a third and a second should be more than a first and a fourth well im done talking about this issue until it takes a new turn

"If it were done when 'tis done, then 'twere well it were done quickly."


it is almost the same scoring as mario kart but in mario kart 8 ppl play at once and in melee 4 ppl play so there is a higher chance of someone tieing. in the next tournament we are not going to only have 2 qualifying matches to get into the eliminations right? so after maybe 5 or 6 matches there wont be a lot of ties. i think that we should keep the scoring system the way i proposed it. tom joe got like 3 1sts but 1 8th last year and he should have won but he didnt cuz mini blin got a handful of 2nds and 3rds. since there will be less people then last time there is a lower chance of someone tieing with multiple players but it will happen sometimes. we are still doing 1v1 march madness right?

one weird thing in mario kart is after 4th place is goes down by ones i never understood that but if we focus on the top 4 places they decrease by 2 just like my proposal decreases by 30.

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whats with the spanish verbs?

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yo no hablo inglés

realmente hablo inglés es apenas que necesito estudiar para una prueba pasado mañana


como te llamas?

Black Shark did u know they took gullible out of the dictionary?

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sooo...


me llamo Umberto Gonzales y usted?

Deben retirarse más funcionarios a causa de la respuesta del gobierno al Huracán Katrina?

ESTO MUY LO INTERESA ESTA ACERCA DE FIGURAS SIGNIFICATIVAS

Los números en la Ciencia

Cuándo científicos miden una cantidad, ellos miden realmente dos datos -- el valor que ellos piensan que ellos han medido, y la incertidumbre. Esto se puede indicar como "medimos diez, más o menos uno", y a menudo científicos utilizan estos términos. Sin embargo, esta anotación obtiene incómodo rápidamente. Necesitamos una estrategia diferente. Los científicos ponen sólo los dígitos ellos pueden ser razonablemente ciertos de en sus números. Ellos quizás digan, por ejemplo, que ellos midieron "10." cm. Esto es realmente diferente del dicho que ellos midieron "10" cm. El uso del punto decimal indica que el científico está seguro de ambos dígitos a algún grado razonable -- es 10. algo, no 11 ni 9, aunque redondeando ambos de estos números a de un dígito da 10.

El número "10." es dicho tener dos dígitos significativos, o las figuras significativas, el 1 y el 0. El número 1,0 tienen también dos dígitos significativos. Así que hace el número 130, pero 10 y 100 sólo tienen uno "higo de sig" como escrito. Ceros que sólo tienen los lugares no se consideran para ser significan T.

¿Así, cómo indica un científico que dos de los dígitos en 100 son significativos?? Nosotros no podemos poner en un punto decimal para hacer sólo 100. porque eso indicaría 3 dígitos. ¿Qué debemos hacer nosotros?

Los científicos utilizan la anotación científica para manejar este problema. La anotación científica se cerciora que todo pero el primer dígito de un número no están después del lugar de decimal y por lo tanto o cierto o utilizados. Aquí están algunos numeran en la anotación científica para estudiar:

(1) 1000 1x103 -- tan un higo (2) de sig 0,001 1x10-3 -- tan un higo (3) de sig 100. 1.00x102 -- tan tres
higos (4) de sig 0,00100 1.00x10-3 -- tan tres higos (5) de sig 100 (con dos higos de sig) 1.0x102 -- tan dos
higos de sig

¿Ve las diferencias? En el primer y segundo ejemplo, los ceros son realmente sólo poseedores de lugar. En el tercer ejemplo, el lugar extraordinario de decimal se utiliza para significar que somos cierto de tres dígitos. En el cuarto ejemplo los ceros extra (en el derecho!) son utilizados para indicar que tenemos la certeza extra. En el quinto ejemplo, nosotros finalmente hemos visto para cómo representar 100 con exactamente dos higos de sig.

La Anotación científica en Su Calculadora aquí está de un solo sentido para escribir a máquina estos números
en su calculadora:

2.183x103 - 1.1x10-2 = 2,183 * 10 ^ 3 - 1,1 * 10 ^ -2 = 2182,989 Cuando usted utiliza su calculadora, escribiendo a máquina "algo tiempos diez al algo" repetidamente otra vez obtiene para ser un dolor. La mayoría de las calculadoras tienen un botón de "EE", para ayudarle fuera. EE significa "tiempos diez al", para que:

¡2.183x103 - 1.1x10-2 = 2,183 EE 3 - 1,1 EE -2 = 2182,989 Nota que cuando usted escribe a máquina la llave de EE, la mayoría de las calculadoras imprimen simplemente "E"! No sea alarmado por esto. Esto no es
la E que significa el error.

¡Tenga cuidado! ¡Es fácil de hacer el siguiente el error común: Recuerda que EE -- tiempos diez al -- no es el mismo como ^ -- "al"!
¡4 EE 1 iguala 40 (hace como 4 * 10^1), no 4! ¿Nuestra próxima pregunta necesita ser, "lo que sucede al número de higos de sig cuando realizamos los cálculos?"

Cuándo científicos calculan con higos de sig, la precisión del resultado debe reflejar la incertidumbre de los números que entraron. ¿Si usted agrega 0,25 a 100, dado que 100 sólo tienen un higo de sig y por lo tanto nosotros no confiamos aún los dos ceros, usted puede decir realmente que usted tiene 100,25? ¡Eso estaría diciendo que usted estaba seguro el primer 100 era, de hecho, 100,00! ¿Si el 100 tuvieron cinco higos de sig, por qué alguien no dijo tan? La multiplicación tiene también las reglas acerca de esto. ¿Qué es las reglas, exactamente?

Agregar y Restar Cuando usted agrega o resta con higos de sig, mira donde el higo más de la derecha de sig está en cada número. El número que tiene su higo más de la derecha de sig en el lugar más alto gobierna lo que es significativo en el resultado. El reloj:

1,0750 + 32,110.31 = 32,111.3850 dura higo de sig:. 000x. 0x utiliza el. 0x (el lugar más alto) = 32,111.39

Tenga cuidado cuando los números están en la anotación científica:

¿9.96x104 + 2.51x103 = 99.6x103 + 2.51x103 = 102.11x103 = 102.1x103 = 1.021x105 lo que hicimos??

La manera más fácil de agregar algo (si nosotros no tenemos una calculadora) está a primero "la línea arriba los dígitos" apropiadamente; con números en la anotación científica que significa que necesitamos reordenarlos para que los poderes de 10 igual. Recuerde la regla empírica:

para mover el punto a la izquierda de un dígito, aumente el poder por 1 en mover el derecho del punto de un
dígito, disminuya el poder por 1

Nosotros entonces agregamos los dígitos (99,6 + 2,51), y notamos que el higo más de la derecha de sig estaría en el. el lugar X en el resultado.

Ultimamente ponemos la espalda del número en la anotación científica apropiada (la izquierda de un dígito de decimal).

Multiplicar y Dividir Cuando usted multiplica o divide, usted mira cuántos higos de sig están en cada número. El más bajo de éstos es el número de higos de sig que el resultado tendrá. Esto es más fácil y realmente más común en la química:

3.212x104 * 2.51x103 = 80621200 = Nota 8.06x107 que el número más pequeño de higos de sig es tres tan ponemos tres en el resultado.

La exponenciación (inclusive raíz cuadrada) los trabajo como la multiplicación -- desde que se basa en la multiplicación.


Sravan, gullible is still in the dictionary, jk lol. Who is this spanish kid? Me no good a espanol. Porque es kumo statas pour bavour komo es stas el gato burrito taco enchilata quesidilla fajita senoir senorita.

"Irony makes me Lethargic"

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LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO. Noah i cant belive u actually looked it up did it say Noah Trobe as the defanition? if not then its on the ceiling.

me llamo lorenzo en la clase de espanol. talk about off topic.
isnt it y tu instead of y usted? or wait usted means u talk to someone important so thank you dude.

i bet noah actually looked at the ceiling

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lol he probley did

"You'll go no further for her sake i will not fail"


WHat the heck, can someone translate?!?!!?!?!?
by the way tp2 you were right temperature should be a funamental quantity but our teacher did not mention it

length meter m
mass kilogram kg
time second s
electric current ampere A
thermodynamic temperature kelvin K
amount of substance mole mol
luminous intensity candela cd


off topic


No I can't translate, but it is just a bunch of science about Sig. Figs with quite a few math errors.

We keep gaining new people on the blog but they only make a few posts then never come back. What ever happened to musicman?

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


Sravan, wtf? I said JK LOL! I still c that the leaderboard is messed up.

"Irony makes me Lethargic"

Black Shark Clan


yea uck i noticed that too...


Um, hey, if you guys are going to waste space with such useless crap like that, could you maybe do it on your own message board, rather than wasting space in here? Because don't try to deny it, it is pretty useless. Interesting, but useless.

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Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


Tom's right. Flare ist ein wirklich blod und dumm Madchen. Sie soll sich tot schlagen. lol.

"There is no spoon." -Neo


Well that is weird. If you click the AADL-GT link at the top right of a board you only get the first 2 and these last 3 boards that means the pre-season and scoring and prize boards are not able to be seen.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


yea duck each of the blogs have different "catagories" in what u place them and u can see the katrina one is in another catagory. since this is axis.aadl.org all the blogs are in the axis catagory but not all of them are AADL-GT or teens. i wasent wasting space it was that spanish kid which is probably one of u 3 so u guys are the ones wasting space.(sorry if i'm wrong)

noah u said gullible was still in the dictionary.jk.lol so that means that u were kidding that it was in there so u really dont think its there but its written on ur forehead anyway so u can always look there lol.

what are flare and black shark doing up at midnight its a school night.

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Sorry haven't been on in a while.
This is a message meant for TC members the official TC website is up and running. The background isn't up yet, but one of the downloads works.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Eli, I'm gonna have a sub on the 24th and I wonder, I know that my sub's points will be toward our clan plus a bonus. Omid told me that his Sis' won't be at the tournament until around 2:30, what happens then, will Nilofar's points count when she returns? What would I do about my sub then, if he keeps playing, will his points and Nilofar's points count toward my clan score? I know that we'll get a lot more points next time. We got less the first day because Nick11 forgot to check in and he didn't get to play the first event of MKDD Single Player.

"Irony makes me Lethargic"

Black Shark Clan


i sure hope that you do better because no1 in your clan got over 400 points last time and nick got the closest out of all of you lol.
and sravan i stay up until 2 because there is nothing better to do

"Vailiant phantoms aide me in battle chatruse gale"


hey tp2 can i visit ur website? is it on geocities or something? i want to know who is coming and who is not coming on the 24th and so far i know nilofar,anti snowman, and flare are coming anyone else? flare there are many better things to do like your homework or sleep. be cool is such a sweet movie travolta does like the best acting.

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No, the spanish thingy wasn't from any of us. It has "tortuga" in the name, which is spanish for "turtle".

Hmm, I wonder who put that up there???

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Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


I'm not pensar tortuga, but I know who is. Sravan, TC online is a turtle clan only thing. Nothing against you, but only TC members can know the web adress. I'm not listing it on any search engines so no one will find it.

Eli when I was talking about downloads I was referring to downloads from TC online.

Pensar tortuga="To think turtle"
which doesn't make any sense.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"


then whats the point of a website will it have clan practice dates and stuff like that?

New Page!

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If you happened to notice BCL talks alot about science stuff and has been using a language translators so just maybe it's him that posted that.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


does every1 here take spanish? ppl who go to pioneer do u guys know a person named benjiman lehman he is in 10th grade cuz he used to go to my school.


He is in my Chem. class and Leinad, Joe and I take German.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


I take Spanish, but I don't know that guy you're talking about.

Also, who all wants to be interviewed in the podcast? So far the only person I have signed up is Sravan. I was thinking we could have other people like TP2, Duck, etc. If anyone wants to do it, just let me know.

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Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


Sure, I'll do an interview Tom.

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I guess duck is the only smart one.........
but who is musicman?


Okay, here's what I found with the Vaccinated Monks:

At the last tournament, Vaccinated Monks were represented by Duck, Evil Bus Driver, Figwit, and Super Sunflower. Their individual point totals add up to 1330, but the clan score was 1360 because in the SSB team event Duck teamed with NakedWarthog as the Vaccinated Monkeys, which was erroneously attributed to the Vaccinated Monks. So the 60 points they earned is split between them evenly for their individual scores, but the entire 60 points comes off of the Clan score, bringing it down to 1300.

I'll be double-checking other Clan scores, but let me know if you see any.

/*== ejk ==*/


Musicman was someone who posted up to preseason but never posted again.

I was wondering if that was being counted for the clan. Figwit left half-way though so I had to team-up with someone and he was just about the only one without a partner.

I will do an interview for the podcast.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


hey eli, if you won in the preseason tournament in august, do you get to be in the championships?
i think it should.


omid probably not cuz the pre season was like a warm up tournament to check out the competition. omid what event did u qualify in? yea thats what happened to our clan rod was flare's partner and joe was sl or fly's partner for melee and danny's partner for mario kart. have u guys seen meet the fokers that movie is so funny!

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Remember? The supirze game was madden. Omid made it inot the pirze round and was facing against me. Ugo was giving him instructions basically, telling him what buttons to push, when to push them etc. And I lost to Omid, Omid then got 2nd place.

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Remember? The supirze game was madden. Omid made it inot the pirze round and was facing against me. Ugo was giving him instructions basically, telling him what buttons to push, when to push them etc. And I lost to Omid, Omid then got 2nd place.

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i know that i mean what event did he qualify for like single mario kart,team melee etc.


I'll do a podcast, but I don't know about what. I'm not going to tell people one of my two important strategies because, it will hurt my chances of winning anything significantly. However, I can talk about basic melee and kart strats.

Sravan TC online has simplified stats, what is soon to be a private TC blog, and downloads pertaining to kart, melee, the tournaments, and TC.


Wait, so how did Duck's clan lose 60 points? I didn't quite get what ejk said. I'm going 2 have a sub at the next tournament, does that mean we'll lose ponts if he plays with any of my clan partners in the partner games? Will his individual points count towards our clan points? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, so confusing!

"Irony makes me Lethargic"

Black Shark Clan


Wow, a post where I'm responding to TP2 and I'm not arguing about something. This is really good.

Anywho, TP2, I won't ask you to reveal any of your strategies or anything, it'll mostly be just basic info about you, your experiences (obviously you were the Season 1 Champ, so you have that going for you), any tips you can offer n00bs, etc. Nothing to excessive. I'm not Diane Sawyer or anything.

(If any of you got that, you get a Gold Star).

Also, ALL of you should come to Pioneer's football game tomorrow night, because I am going to be in the marching band. So if you go to Pioneer, or are going to go to Pioneer, come to the football game.

And that's all I have to say about that...

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


TP2? did you code the html by hand for "TC online?"


Yes BCL.
I had to put the stupid line breaks and the bold tags in so much that I put line breaks on the clip board. I know that it would have been quicker to use MS word, but it wouldn't have been nearly as much fun.

BCL what is you and Padouk's team called I need it for TC online.


i don't know, how about MK masters for starters
by the way, do you really expect snowman and darth marth to accomplish anything

李 治 學

Auf Wiedersehen-


"I know that it would have been quicker to use MS word, but it wouldn't have been nearly as much fun."

And we all know that anything dealing with computers has to be repetitive, torturous, and boring, right?

*DA-DUM* *CRASH!!!!*

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


That's mean. (just so you know you can edit posts.)


Wait, mine? Or BCL's?

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


lots of posting lately. i know its none of my buisnass but what is this about MK masters?


It's some secondary team of Turtle Clan's, methinks.

Also, totally out of curiosity, Sravan, where do you go to school?

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


GRYPHONS REPRESENT(greenhills). i used to go to slauson but i hated it. i might go to pioneer for high school though


Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


im gonna start a conversation. what is your favorite character and kart combination in mario kart? we use random combos at the tournaments anyway. mine is paratroopa and toad in the toad kart(paratroopa is the red shell guy who can fly). i like them mainly cuz of their items.

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Sravan mine is two koopas in the green koopa car. That is just for show though. For racing I put parakoopa and baby mario (color coordinating) in the trophy kart.

Tom I was responding to BCL's comments about some of the TC 2 members.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"


Tom you'll have graduated when sravan goes to pioneer.

Now black shark The reason MY clan lost 60 points is because I teamed-up with someone outside my clan for an event this person and myself both had those points going toward the clan which was an error. This happened because you of my subs left half way though and I had no one to team up with.

My favorite MKdd combo is luigi & yoshi in the green fire. I like green if you can't tell.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


mine is the opposite of sravans i like toadette and koopa in the koopa kart


When it comes to season points, the simple part is individual points. It's just a total of your single player results and half of your team results (which are split between the two players).

Clan points on the other hand, are a little more complicated. For a clan to get points for a tournament, you roster up to four players, of which at least one has to be one of the clan's primary members. The points earned by these four players will be added to the clan's total. The one tricky part is that for the team events, clan points will only count if both players are on the roster for that clan.

More specifically, Duck's clan lost points because they only had 3 rostered players for the last team event, so they could only have one team that could count towards their clan total. As long as your rostered players stick together for the team events, it doesn't matter if they are primaries or subs.

Clear as mud? =)

/*== ejk ==*/


you're right, i'm sorry, but you can only edit up to a certain time limit after your post.

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I think it makes sense... It just means if you have four people registered, then you have to make two teams within the four people to get maximum points right?


Yep that's how it works.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


Tom, are you a Senior? Cause when Duck says that you will graduate when sravan goes to high school. Or is Duck implying something else? Cause Sravan is in eigth grade.

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Everyone in the VMC is a senior except for me.

The Nintendo revolution controller is strange but slick. I wonder how the games will play.

Posting has really died down. We need a debate or something to speculate.

Fry: "So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?"
Professor: "No, just the two."
Fry: "Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough."


Everyone in the VMC is a senior except for me.

The Nintendo revolution controller is strange but slick. I wonder how the games will play.

Posting has really died down. We need a debate or something to speculate.

Fry: "So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?"
Professor: "No, just the two."
Fry: "Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough."


WTF Black Shark

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.


wait last year i thought u guys were freshman. is joe a sophmore now? the toad car and koopa car are the same status so they are basically the same its just an opinion of which looks cooler. or wait in one of leinad's posts he said seniors 06 so yea u guys are seniors.

another conversation starter-what is your least favorite course in mario kart? mine is mario circut cuz i always lose there and i mean always.

i remember at the grands last year my first race was there tp2 was in first place on the home strech then gets hit by a master shell then the pirhana hits him and someone passes him then a lightning hits him and i come in and we are right next to eachother pushing our karts but his was ahead of me so he got 2nd and i got 3rd.

duck is right we should have a debate. i cant really think of a question right now but eli and erik should tell us if we are signed up with someone not in our clan for a team event. who is going to the game tommarow? if we lose to eastern then we are in bad shape for the season.

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Sorry Duck, I got bored and I decided that I wanted 2 copy and paste something.

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the ps3 controller looks weird its so long.


I was thinking about buying a revolution when it came out, but then I looked at the controller. Yuck, It looks stupid. It looks like a remote for a massage chair.

I wish they would have used the controller featured on this site,
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7809

I feel sorry for the nintendo fans who feel like they have to buy a revolution.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"


I hate mushroom city.

Here is TP2's website again.
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7809

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.


Omg, the nintendo revolution controller looks so stupid!
http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2005/09/16/443527.html


you might think it looks stupid but it might give some good game play.
next time put square brackets around it.
http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2005/09/16/443527.html
What country hosts that server Galen?

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.


WHY, NINTENDO!! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

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Donut: Hey, I found it!!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


wow u guys are right the revolution controller is weird. the ps3 one is long. its probably spain or france etc.

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Duck, you are a nintendo loyalist. It took me a while to shake off the disease, but I'm sure eventually you'll realize that nintendo won't have a light at the end of the tunnel. They are losing ground in the handheld market. They have lost almost any ground in the console market. It's because, of games like Mario Party 4-7 and other games that they put mario's face on and hope it sells. They focus too much on "innovation" (look at the controller) and to little on how to make a game a lot of fun. Look at melee.

I would have to say that other than melee and kart the top 5 games I play most aren't by nintendo. (Melee is made by Hal anyways)

Duck nothing against you, but the revolution controller looks stupid, not interesting.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"


It's certainly a big gamble, but those who have actually used it (people from the video game media) seem really enthusiastic, so I'm remaining optomistic. I bet that it will hurt sales some since it's so unique, but I think that it will play awesomely and once word spreads, it might attract new customers.

"There is no spoon." -Neo


One real quick problem with it is if you have an itch you can't take your hand off the controller.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"


I just found out that you can use a conventional controller shell w/ the revolution. Good. I still don't like their weird thing. Plus the shell looks a lot like a dreamcast controller. I wonder if nintendo is trying to follow sega's excellent example.

I'm revising the last statement by saying that without the shell it has that problem.

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tp2 what do u mean by controller shell? the only thing i'm looking for in the revolution is ssbm2 online i get to beat ppl all over the country yay.doesnt it come out fall 06? didnt eli say we should stop talking about the consules ut there is nothing else to talk about cuz there is no pre registration yet and he hasent made a post in a while. y do we still have 3840 shouldnt it be 3850?

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Nintendo claims that there will be a shell that you can put the controller in to make it look and feel like a normal controller.
Go to ign to check out their theory about it

Of course the shell could be about as useful as the gamecubes internet port/adapter.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"


I think Eli said not to argue about stuff we don't know but courteous speculation should be fine. Oh and TP2 I'm a Sega loyalist I just prefer seeing Family friendly Nintendo prosper over Evil monopoly Microsoft and Sega Killing Sony.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.


duck u do know nintendo bought sega right?
Q&A about controller.
that has what the shell will look like but will the anolog stick come with the shell or do u have to insert that as well. i presume the shell will be sold seperatly. duck and eli arent the only guys who can do links.

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Really? Then why is Shadow the Hedgehog coming out for Ps2 and xbox also?


The Analog stick is built into the Shell sravan.

I'm pretty sure Sega is a 3rd party developer. It was bought by Sammy. The second-party developers make games for many systems. F-Zero GX, Jet Set Radio and Space Channel 5 which are all on different systems.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.


they are owned by nintendo but they still make games.


Sravan that shell you linked to is only a mock-up nintendo hasn't released official imagery of the shell yet.

Fry: So, there’s an infinite number of parallel universes?
Professor: No, just the two.
Fry: Oh, well, I’m sure that’s enough.