Eli Goes to PAX, and Lives to Tell the Tale

This past weekend, I attended the Penny Arcade Expo. It was absolutely incredible. There were PC, console, and tabletop game tournaments, panel discussions, an exhibitor room (think E3 lite), concerts, freeplay, prizes, and the OMEGATHON II.

I went to see how truly large game tournaments are run, specifically to get some ideas on how to handle our recent influx of new players, and to do a little of what adults call 'networking'. Also, to play some games. Read on for complete details.

Friday, I arrived in Seattle, checked in, and joined the stream of geeks flowing up the street toward the Meydenbauer Center in downtown Bellevue. The doors were supposed to open to preregistrants at 3:00, and it was about 2:50. There was a line stretching down the street and around the block, past a Dairy Queen that must have thought it died and went to heaven. A guy next to me waiting to cross the street looked at the line and said, "I'm glad I preregistered," thinking it meant he got to skip the line. He figured out soon enough that the line was only for people who had preregistered, and hiked back to the end of the line somewhere around Vancouver.

While waiting for the doors to open, I made my first PAX discovery: the Nintendo DS becomes something truly awesome in a DS-rich environment. There were pictochat rooms going all the time, no matter where you were... in the line, in the theater, at lunch, even during the concerts. Pictochat became a sort of live commentary track for the whole event, with people getting downloadable games together on the fly (Meteos was most common). You could just put your DS into download mode and see 2 or 3 games people were offering for wireless play. I played Meteos, Bomberman DS, Advance Wars, and something in Japanese I later figured out was Puyo Puyo Fever. You could also see many people 'petting' or making baby talk to their newly-acquired Nintendogs.

I registered for the Super Smash Brothers and Mario Kart Double Dash tournaments... by writing my name on a piece of paper. It was so quaint and refreshing... given the way we IT geeks do things, I can honestly say it never before occurred to me. However, they have some approaches at PAX that we really can't take at AADL-GT Tournaments, for example, they close registration completely up to an hour before the event begins to give them time to do the data entry. If you miss the registration deadline, that's that. Also, most tournaments are pool-based, single-elimination, reducing greatly the need for the kind of record-keeping we do during a tournament.

For example, for Super Smash Brothers, each of the 24 stations was assigned a 16-person pool. After filling the empty pool spots with standby players, they made brackets for each pool and players played a 1v1, best 2 out of 3, 4-stock, 6-minute time limit match, with items set to low, some banned items, and some banned stages. Only the winner of the pool advanced to the next round. I got eliminated in my first match against a master Ness player. I was DK first, then Link, and both times I had him down to his last life when I lost.

Friday Night's concert, after a showing of the 1989 Fred Savage and Super Mario Bros. 3 Vehicle The Wizard, included The Videogame Pianist, Transformers-obsessed hiphop band Optimus Rhyme, and the The NESkimos. Lovecraftian Rock Band The Darkest of the Hillside Thickets canceled at the last minute.

Saturday morning, the exhibit room opened, and we stumbled in to find a real, genuine, E3-style Nintendo Booth, with 10 DS stations, 4 GBA stations, 6 small gamecube stations and 2 Huge ones. All sorts of unreleased games were playable, including Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess! It was the E3 demo, and while I love the Wind Waker style, the new realistic Zelda look will undoubtedly be less reviled by the legions of 'mature' rabid gamers with poor taste who think that bright colors are only acceptable for children. Regardless, the game is naturally amazing. Also playable were Super Mario Baseball and Super Mario Strikers (Soccer), both of which are an absolute blast and are outstanding additions to the Mario Sports lineup. Advance Wars: Under Fire for Gamecube is cool, 3rd person squad-based cartoony warfare, and looks fun, but very very different from the Advance Wars formula. If you like Advance Wars, Fire Emblem (the game Marth and Roy are from) for Gamecube is on the way; it's fantasy turn-based tactics battles, very in-depth, but a bit dry. Mario Kart DS was playable and is absolutely great, featuring great new tracks and best-of-breed weapons; rotating shells, the banana train, and jumping are all back, and the graphics look great on the DS's top screen. The lower screen shows you a zoomed-in overhead view that you can use to dodge shells! You can play 8-player wireless, and rumors persist that you'll be able to play over the internet via Wifi. One guy even said there would be Halo-style stat tracking and ladders, but I think he just made that up. We'll see.

In contrast to Nintendo's booth, Sony had 4 toys-r-us-style kiosks and a couple of card tables, and Microsoft had two tables and a single big TV. Ubisoft actually had a better XBOX booth than Microsoft, showing off some new combat games, a King Kong game that was fun but with a maddening fixed camera, and appearances by the Fragdolls.

Also exhibiting were NCSoft, best known for City of Heros, and Turbine, whose Dungeons and Dragons Online was a fan favorite, especially with all the tabletop gamers in attendance. The Army was there pushing America's Army, complete with Humvee, and Flying Lab Software was exhibiting their new MMORPG, Pirates of the Burning Sea.

On Saturday, we got to watch Gabe and Tycho make Monday's strip after a 'pitch your game idea' panel with several industry veterans. The best idea to come out of that session was probably "France France Revolution". Saturday was also the Mario Kart Double Dash team tournament. They had the 24 stations broken up into 6 4-station Lans, splitscreen, so they had the capacity for 96 simultaneous players driving 48 carts in 6 races, plus 2 extra pools that went after the first round for a total of 64 teams, 128 players. They had planned to have each pool of 8 teams play a 4-race cup, and the top two places from each pool would advance. However, as we know so well, the game does not keep track of any scores in LAN mode. I talked to Zig21, the head of the console tourney room about it, and was able to help them get a quick paper-based scoring system so they could record the scores of 4 races. It was great to have the opportunity to share our Kart tournament expertise, and help out a truly large event, and I think the event went very well, other than the fact that my randomly-assigned partner (because I didn't bring one) and I got knocked out in the first round. The competition was very intense. I actually did play-by-play on the mic for the finals, a set of 8 races, and last year's winning team, Sparkimus Prime, won again. Prizes for all the tournaments at PAX were different numbers of 'tickets' for the prize booth, Chuck-E-Cheese style, only with cool stuff like PSP accessories, games, toys, t-shirts, etc. I saw a brand-new set of Foster's toys that I REALLY WANTED. Oh well.

Saturday night's concert was absolutely amazing. First, Nintendo, on the ball as ever, had handed out little blue flashlights that project the nintendo logo, so the entire theater was filled with dancing Nintendo logos projected onto the walls by the audience. That was the best money they ever spent. The concert started off with Round 4 of the OMEGATHON. The OMEGATHON is an intense tournament for 32 randomly-selected players through all types of games, including tabletop, PC shooters, doubledash, Katamari Damacy, etc. Each round a few people are eliminated. Round 4 was Karaoke Revolution, which is like DDR, only you sing. In front of 2000 people. It was hilarious. The audience cheered the most for the players who sung the worst, and I can sense a surprize round game here.... just kidding, I wouldn't do that to you. However, I do want to try it at a DDR tournament and see if anyone would be interested in a Karaoke Revolution tournament.

After the OMEGATHON sing-off, Pianist Conney Lin played several beautiful, but dull, arrangements of music from Final Fantasy. Then, taking the stage by storm, came the world's 579th greatest rapper, MC Frontalot, inventor and proponent of Nerdcore hiphop, with his band, and personal hype machine, Gelatinous Cube. Front launched his new album at PAX and performed several new tracks, including 'Click Close' about pop up windows, and 'Got Message #419', about Nigerian email scams. MC Frontalot was simply awesome, high energy and suitably geeky in his short sleeve dress shirt, tie, and thick glasses. Next came a rapper who I don't think I can directly mention in this forum. I'll just say that he's the voice of Hesh from Sealab 2021 and MC PeePants from Aqua Teen Hunger Force. He was great, and led the crowd in a rousing chant of 'Nerd Power'. Also notable was his DJ, who pressed one key on his Mac at the start of each song and stood there while it played. Awesome.

However, the best band and the highlight of the evening was the all-powerful Minibosses, whose straightforward power-guitar arrangements of classic NES music stole the show. They closed with Metroid, which was just incredible. These guys are extremely talented players and they know the repertoire well, picking out lesser-known gems like Goonies II for their treatment.

Sunday began with a 'beat the pros' event, where Soul Calibur II Master Zig21 took challengers from the audience. If they could beat him in a single round, they got a $50 gift card. His main character was Astaroth, but after a few wins, he upped the ante and would beat players with their own best characters. He did get beaten a few times, but I think his final record was something like 28-17, and the whole event was just a blast. They then moved onto Halo 2 Team, and challenger teams could attempt to beat some high-ranking Halo players.

The end of Sunday, and of PAX 2005, was the OMEGATHON final round. The Omega Collection was the prize, a $10,000 collection of essentially every NES game, system, and accessory ever produced. Even the obscure and rare ones. It was kept on display in the exhibit room, locked in two enormous cages. Last year, the final round of the OMEGATHON was pong, and as we filed into the theater for the final match, there was lots of buzz, especially in pictochat, about what the game would be. Tycho and Gabe took the stage and revealed this year's final game.... it was COMBAT, for the Atari 2600, first to 2 wins. The match between omeganaughts Coreside and LeRoy was extremely intense, especially with such an amazing prize on the line. In the first match, the older Coreside showed his roots, skunking LeRoy 15-0. The next match, LeRoy got the hang of it and stormed back to tie 8-8. Then LeRoy won a match, setting the stage for an insane finale. The final match started off with Coreside taking a 6 or 7 point lead, but LeRoy came back with several shots in a row to tie it at 10 just as the scores started blinking, which in the old days, meant that your match was almost over. Finally, with the crowd going crazy, Coreside scored a final hit, and won the match, the OMEGATHON, and the entire Omega Collection. WOW.

So, what did I learn? I learned that there isn't a much better way to do Mario Kart tournaments than what were already doing, other than to have more stations or to turn people away. I also learned that if a videogame tournament smells bad, that just means you're doing it right. I learned that if you use Pictochat on your birthday, your DS announces your birthday to every chatroom you enter. I also learned that only Nintendo appreciates how powerful the hardcore can be. I saw Twilight Princess, a Game Boy Micro, AADL-GT DDR master Aaron S, Adult Kart tournament regular Omokusaki's name on the list, Mountains, Nerf capture-the-flag played across the entire hotel, and cases and cases of BAWLZ overcaffeinated soda (it's nasty). I gave AADL-GT Season 1 Grand Championship DVDs to Gabe and Tycho, Zig21, a team from 1UP magazine, the winners of the PAX doubledash tournament, and a few other random people. It was a total blast, and I'm already looking forward to PAX 2006.

HEY! You found SOMETHING HIDDEN! And here it is: OMEGATHONFTW

Comments

GOD U GUYS!!!! THE ONLY THING WERE GOING TO BAN ARE THE NOISEMAKERS!!!Y DO WE HAVE TO KEEP GOING OVER THIS!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?


Omid, that is only your opinion, others think otherwise, so yes, we are going to have to go over this

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Omid, that is only your opinion, others think otherwise, so yes, we are going to have to go over this

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wtf Galen? One post of the similar comment is all we need. Sravan, how do u do it? I, for some reason still have some trouble getting quick mini turbos, which is why i can't win. I MUST WIN! DAMN THOSE NOISE MAKERS! KILL THEM ALL!

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"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"


BS (Black Shark) - It's called a double post. It happens sometimes. Live with it.

And I've already made my opinion clear about items and stages being banned. Every time you hear someone make a case the other way, just hear my voice in your head pointing out how stupid they are.

"There is no spoon." -Neo


would that be the voice of Leinad or of Daniel?

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


i just saw transporter 2 and it was a really good movie with all the action. there was less driving in this 1 then in the first one.

duck whats the difference leinad is daniel backwards. omid banning specific players is unfair and we want our revenge right? they didnt get into the prize round anyway so take that u annoying little pests. duck what do u mean ur clan is full of subs are leinad and tom not coming again?

lets see leinad and omid say dont ban anything i say ban some stuff and i dont know what duck,black shark,tp2,galen, or anti-snowman think but tell everyone if u want to ban something or not and if so say what u want banned.

noah i told u before to read the insturction booklet and look on the page where it says mini turbo. if u cant do it fast enough then u need something called practice.

BTW tp2 if anti-snowman does use marth 2 marths on a team is stupid but thats only if anti-snowman uses marth. no offense

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the only reason we didn't ban stages before is because we didnt get to pick them...in other tournaments u get to pick them so i don't think that we should ban any thing and keep it old school.:)


Black Shark Clan

Here's my opinion, everybody shut up about banning everything, I think that that we should live life as it is. Play SSBM as it should be played. U guys do know that Eli decides everything, rite? I think Eli already said that we shouldn't ban anything, even though PAX had rules of banning stuff, but I bet Eli will not ban anything. Just live on and practice with all items, food, and stages. There are certain buttons(Z, L, or R) 4 a shield and a certain "in-air" dodging button(L). Ok? Jesus Christ, when will this argument end, it is totally pointless. And Sravan, my name on this post is Black Shark, u can call me by my real name on AIM and in the real world, but not on this site, OK? Nothing Personal.

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"


the air dodging thing is totally off topic NOAH. that shows how much u know about it u can also use R to do an air dodge and u probably dont know about rolling dodge or side dodge. does anyone here use side dodge i know people use rolling dodge and air dodge cuz of wave dashing. i can call u NOAH if i want there is nothing u can do about it OK? are u saying that dodging is cheap?

what omid said inspired me to leave everything as it is not what black shark said. oops i meant to say noah. also duck said that since there are 30 stages there is like a 3-4%chance the stage u hate will come up so there is nothing to worry about. if one of those stages does come up and someone wins by stalling then they lose their dignity.

eli the guy who won the melee tournament at PAX, what character did he use? we are still doing the cup thing right? the cup thing might take a long time so maybe we should stick to the normal setup that we do but have split screen. team mario kart there is no split screen right?

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i found out that the upcoming DDR tournament is the sunday after the tournament from 1-4pm at mallets creek. do they have the open play mario kart and melee and other games like pikman and 1080 and kirby's air raid? if so i might go.

HA NEW PAGE

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sravan...sighs...stop posting so much. Secondly, in unrelated topics, can I have everyone's opinion on which of these two shoes they like better?
1st Shoe: http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/3347142/c/1001.html
2nd Shoe: http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/5632935/c/6556.html

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hey eli, do u think we could have more stock for ssbm? i thought 1 stock was a little cheap...and too short


oh ya, sravan r u any good at ddr? if u r i hope to see u there. and eli, is the tournament gonna be ddrmax2? or some other game?


I don't want to ban anything. Joe you’re such a hypocrite saying not to post stuff about unrelated topics and then asking which pair of shoes to buy.

We are going to have 2 stock not 1; the last tournament was a time crunch so we had to have it be 1 stock or nothing.

"Mime is money"


If you honestly think I use Marth you must be crazy.


if cost isnt an issue joe then i like the 2nd ones the first one is really long and is pure white with no logo or anything. omid i'm not that good at DDR but i got 4th place of the people doing light mode. i feel that that is better cuz u can play for 3rd and 4th prize. duck how does that make him a hypocrite? there is nothing to say until eli says something. joe i only posted 3 times yesterday...

sorry snowman duck just said u used marth so i assumed u did. who do u use?

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Where is everybody? This is an all time low for posting in one day. Eli hasn't showed up for like, a week. How do u make links? it says something below about it, but i don't know how 2 make that certain "character" that it shows.

Black Shark Clan

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"


This is an all time low for posting in one day.

good.

"There is no spoon." -Neo


Wow. So much has happened since I was last here.

First of all, the tournament happened. Good job to everyone who won.

Second of all, I would like to make a suggestion about commentating. I would like to request that Leinad and I stay color commentators for Double Dash, and that we get two all-time color commentators for Melee. It would be a better idea to have two people set for each type of event, because it would be less confusing for all involved. The best example that I can think of is the X Games, where each different sport has it's own set of commentators. (And yes, the X Games are really sports.) As for the SurPrize rounds, we could either have all four commentators doing it at once (though that might become a bit crowded), we could have a team from just one of the games do it, and then alternate, or we could pair up one person from each commentary team and they could do it, and then the pairs would alternate.

Thirdly, I think it would be a horrible idea to move the video production and commentary booths outside. I think it would be easier for the video production team to be inside because they also happen to be the technical support, scorekeepers, etc, for the whole tournament. I think it would be easier to have the commentary team inside the room as well, because unless we've come up with some sort of notification system as to who is playing at what station, it is a lot easier if the commentators can look out over the stations and see who is sitting where. This would be especially helpful for Mario Kart, because unlike Melee, there is no player identification system in the game, other than the characters, and that won't help at all because the characters are random (duh). It would also be a better idea to keep the commentators in the room because it would take them less time to get from the commentary booth to their station if they get called in to race. And seeing Eli's insetred comments in the tourney recap, apprently time is something that is of the essence at these tournaments. (91 people in the melee tournament? Wow.)

Fourthly, I think we shouldn't ban any items, stages, characters, or whatever. There aren't any items that give any specific character an unfair advantage, and like Eli, Leinad and a whole bunch of other people have said, it add more randomness to the game, and in Melee, randomness=good. As far as banning stages goes, I think that if someone is caught stalling, it's not like we won't be able to tell who it is, and that person could be assessed a points penalty, or disqualified or something.

Fifthly, the **REAL** Vaccinated Monks team is going to be at the September 24th Tournament, so ya'll better watch yourselves, cause this time we aren't going to get some 1300 points or whatever we got last time.

Yeah for the longest comment today. w00t!


tom u werent there at the last tournament so u didn't know how crowded it was. it is a good idea to move everything outside and the commentators will have a special tv in which they see and commentate. we should have a pool of comentators such as last time except we can't let those 6th graders commentate. we can have 8 players and we start with 2 then when 1 of the 2 play the next person in line comes and commentates. we should have a specific list of 8 people who will commentate such as me,galen,duck,tom,leinad, and 3 others. these 5 have already claimed being commentators so there should only be 3 spots left. the suprise round should be commentated by eli or black shark cuz he never makes it in LMAO.

also i am so glad the last tournament wasent telivised thank u CTN for the mix up.

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You are absolutely correct, Sravan, I wasn't at the last tournament. If there were really approximately 100 people there, it probably would be a good idea to move stuff. Although, I just had a thought; we could take away the tables in the middle of the room, since they probably take up more space than they provide. I'm not against moving stuff as long as everyone is willing to work with it.

The problem with your plan for commentating, Sravan, is that say one person has their battles spread out over a long period of time (within each round). Then that person gets to commentate a lot more than anyone else does, which isn't really fair. I'm sure if he really wanted to, Eli could throw some part of his program together to stop that from happening, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't really want to do that. Also, as far as I know, Duck only proposed his name for commentary in replacement for Leinad and I while we were gone (if he said it somewhere else, please forgive me), so if we did it my way, it wouldn't be a problem. Leinad and I could commentate for Mario Kart (and Duck could as well maybe if he really wanted to), and you and Galen could commentate for Melee, since frankly, I know a lot more about Mario Kart than I do about Melee. I'm hesitant to having more than 4 people commentate, simply because of logistics as far as consistency over the course of all of the tournaments. I think since we don't have 30 people or whatever lining up wanting to be commentator, we should pick the four of us who are among the most experienced as far as these tournaments go, and let them do it. Of course, Eli has the final say and I won't go against what he decides.

I also think that we should pick some separate commentators for the SurPrize round, simply because the two color commentators can handle the play-by-play duties, while Eli handles the logistics, such as who's at what stations, etc. I don't know, i say we leave it up to Eli to decide, since he is kinda sorta in charge of the whole thing.

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Donut: Hey, *I* found it!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


yea tom my idea has a hole in it so ur idea is better. u and leinad can do mario kart and me and galen will do melee. tom just incase u don't know we have split screen so u have to keep track of 2 people at once. maybe u,leinad, and duck can do mario kart and switch off each itme one of u has to play but if all 3 of u play then eli commentates.


I find it highly unlikely that all three of us will be racing at the same time. If that does happen, or even if two of the people have to race so there's only one left, then you or Galen could come commentate for one race; I wouldn't have a problem with that. We could do the same in case you and Galen get into the same match in Melee.

Yes, I do know about split-screen, but as long as we get something that tells us who is who, I have no problem with that.

Also, Duck or Leinad, has anyone registered us as a clan yet? I'm guessing probably not, because our 4th person hasn't been on here yet, but I want to check. Oh well, I'll just talk to you guys aboot it tomorrow.

I just had another thought: Would anyone be interested in having an AADL-GT podcast? I easily have the tools to make one, but I won't waste my time if nobody will download it and/or listen to it...

"Caboose: Look what I found!
Donut: Hey! *I* found that!
Caboose: Look what I took credit for finding!"


whats a podcast?

before since we had 2 commentators if one of them are racing the guy would do it solo but ur idea is better. u guys will probably commentate more then us cuz a race is usually longer then a melee battle and there are 32 ppl at once playing melee and 16 ppl playing mario kart but i'm ok with that.

the main problem now is the number of people at the next tournament eli said he wants around 125 but this time we should make pre-registration an advantage. eli said 75 ppl could pre-register online and 50 ppl can come there and register and that sounds good. tom we are also using the space behind the big screen cuz we never use that space. if we are looking for 75 ppl to register online then it should say in the flyers and advertisments that u can pre-register online for a garunteed spot in the tournament. if they walk in and all the spots are filled then we can say sorry but first come first serve.

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GO RED VS BLUE!!!!!

Anyway, I have a great idea.....................................LET'S BAN EVERYTHING EXCEPT FINAL DESTINATION!!!!!

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Tom, I registered our clan but it is currently just me for real primaries. The subs from the last tournament are listed in there, but Once we get the subs out we can put the rest of the clan in.

Yep, I'll be just the sub commentator. I think Tom idea is the best so far so anyone that is decent at commentating can do it for a surprize round.

Galen your Idea is up there with cardboard for one of the worse suggestions ever.

Oh shoot now I have to try at the next tournament because everyone is coming.

Oh yeah about Stalling it is a legitimate strategy. Consider the game Go as an example the player that is losing has to be the aggressor or else he doesn't stand a chance and the player that is winning tries his best to stay there. The winner isn't required to defend/counterattack until he/she is under attack. So stalling goes all the way back to before 200B.C.

Oh yeah Eli can I wear a badge That says I'm technical support so people stop trying to say they know the rules and format. I can make my own badge it’s just I want your or Elk’s or someone with authority permission to wear it.

"Badges? We ain't got no badges! We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinking badges!"


i dont mind stalling i just feel bad for people who do cause 1 i will almost always kill that person 1st and 2 cause they cant play i really just hate people who stall and then try to beat people by using links up b and other pathicly cheap attaks oh and whoever hears leined's voice calling us stupid you can hear my voice calling him immature for saying that others are stupid for disagreeing with him oh BTW im all for randomness until it starts taking over fairness think about that for a while would you rather have a tournament based on luck where you lose to a n00b or a tournament of skill where you crush the n00b oh and 1 more thing all you people talking about not banning anything and all you people talking about banning things (including me) GROW UP AND COMPRIMISE LIKE ONLY BANNING 1 THING CAN YOU ALL LIVE WITH THAT INSTEAD OF BEING LITTLE BABIES BICKIRING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING I MEAN COME ON oh yeah omid shut up about the noise makers you are being more annoying then they were and black shark eli hasent posted because he likes wacthing us argue and because people are asking him questions he doesnt want to answer dont ask how i know this just accpet it OK EVERY BODY UNDERSTAND WHAT I JUST SAID WELL IF YOU DIDN'T PLEASE SAY SO NOW....... OR ELSE!!!!

"Peace out"


oh on a side note this is from a long time ago but not only is a pansy a type of flower it is also a derogatory term for gay men anyways all you people complaining about there being 20 commments a day thats just sad you cant read 20 comments a day i can read our longest blog in under 40 min. if you dont have like 15 min. to read these commments then you shouldnt have time to complain and if you cant read them in 15min. cause you are to slow a reader you need to read more seriosly so people STOP COMPLAING ABOUT THINGS AND GET ON WIT YER LIFE YA DIG G

"Peace out"


now that i said that can any1 count to 10 with out skipping any numbers (not including decimals or fractions or negitive integers) with only 10 numbers

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. has anyone ever seen the titanic its a really good movie even though its really sad and i can belive that is the number one box office of all time with 600 million dollars holy cow! duck stalling may be very old but if u do stall then u lose ur dignity and thats worse in losing a match(unless u get a prize in the match). so everyone agrees about commentating...good. there will be NO changes to who is commentating and how we do it except the person who commentates the prize round. since we stopped arguing about banned things and stuff lets like cut down on posting till eli makes a post.

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"i dont mind stalling i just feel bad for people who do cause 1 i will almost always kill that person 1st and 2 cause they cant play i really just hate people who stall and then try to beat people by using links up b and other pathicly cheap attaks oh and whoever hears leined's voice calling us stupid you can hear my voice calling him immature for saying that others are stupid for disagreeing with him oh BTW im all for randomness until it starts taking over fairness think about that for a while would you rather have a tournament based on luck where you lose to a n00b or a tournament of skill where you crush the n00b oh and 1 more thing all you people talking about not banning anything and all you people talking about banning things (including me) GROW UP AND COMPRIMISE LIKE ONLY BANNING 1 THING CAN YOU ALL LIVE WITH THAT INSTEAD OF BEING LITTLE BABIES BICKIRING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING I MEAN COME ON oh yeah omid shut up about the noise makers you are being more annoying then they were and black shark eli hasent posted because he likes wacthing us argue and because people are asking him questions he doesnt want to answer dont ask how i know this just accpet it OK EVERY BODY UNDERSTAND WHAT I JUST SAID WELL IF YOU DIDN'T PLEASE SAY SO NOW....... OR ELSE!!!!"

Wow, what? You know, punctuation and proper capitalization would make your messages quite a bit more readable. A few comments.

1) stalling is not a cowards strategy, it is a smart strategy. I stall sometimes, and I'd like to see you "kill me first" as if you have any control over anything in the match.

2) lets look a couple opf quotes form this post: "calling him immature for saying that others are stupid for disagreeing" and later: "GROW UP AND COMPRIMISE LIKE ONLY BANNING 1 THING CAN YOU ALL LIVE WITH THAT INSTEAD OF BEING LITTLE BABIES BICKIRING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING I MEAN COME ON" hmm... a bit of anger at those who disagree with you, huh? And if you actually paid attention, I said that the arguments for banning were stupid, not the people making them (with the obvious exception of Flare, who is.)

3) "omid shut up about the noise makers you are being more annoying then they were" You're one to talk. You make Black Shark look like an eloquent and well liked politician.

Okay, I believe I've made all of my points. You may resume your grammar, punctuation, capitallization rules, sense and intelligence lacking posts.

oh, and I agree with Tom's commentary idea.

"There is no spoon." -Neo


And I've already made my opinion clear about items and stages being banned. Every time you hear someone make a case the other way, just hear my voice in your head pointing out how stupid they are.

1.you wrote that leined so if youre trying to say that you are calling the arguments stupid then you must be saying: that the case are stupid; which isnt even close to good grammer

2.If you paid attention to my comment i never called stalling cowardice and i said that i almost always kill stallers first i meant to say cowards that much i will admit

3.i actully wwas angry at the whole argument including my part in it (just in case you missed that to =P)

4. and i do make black shark look like a well liked politician but the well liked ones arn't always the best now are they(no offense black shark)

i think i will return to my how did you say it: You may resume your grammar, punctuation, capitallization rules, sense and intelligence lacking posts. oh i put all those letters in caps cause my finger brushed on the caps lock key and i didnt feel like fixing it

oh i agree with tom's commentary idea also


i said stalling is cowardly and it is. flare he meant omid when he said the thing about the politician. stalling is cowardly stalling means avoiding danger and running away and a coward is someone who doesnt want to do the thing cuz they think they will lose. my defination is a little vague but once leinad posts something countering my post i'm just gonna shut up cuz we shouldn't be arguing.

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i just forgot to post this last time and i cant edit what i wrote for some reason but anyways :i belive i have counterd all youre posts

"Such foul and fair a day I have not seen"


no he was talking to me cause he even said youre 1 to talk and if he did direct it at omid im still gonna take it personally cause im stupid like that


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HAHAHA!!!
HEY FLARE, I SAW YOU AT TAPPAN TODAY!!!
I KNOW YOU SAW ME, BUT YOU IGNORED ME!!!
oh well, oops, sry, cap locks, sry!

AND STOP TALKING ABOUT ME!!!!!
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i dont go to tappan so how could you see me i go to A2o


Flare - you're right, I did day the peopel were stupid, I'm sorry, I meant to say that their arguments were stupid. And Prince Marth, that make the whole forum look like crap, so please go edit your post.

"There is no spoon." -Neo


its okay this time but dont do it again you hear me jk me 2 i was being a jerk


this relates to last week but bad driver feel free to use my name but 1 time i teamed up with some1 who didnt fight anyways so it was more i wont kick youre a** cause 1 the other 2 were teaming up on me sort of i beat them both but i only had 1 life and like 107 damage on me while the other guy had 2 lives and 48 damage i killed him once before he beat me


WTF OMID! U ruined the blog. I have to use the side scroll 2 read everybody's posts! Edit it now! Or Eli(wherever he is) needs 2 use his admin powers 2 edit or erase omid's posts. And i dont get what u guys were saying earlier about me. R U guys insulting me or complimenting me? Heres what I have 2 say about the "new" commentating ideas. IT IS TOTAL BULLSH**. I'm not waitin' all the way until the Surprise round 2 commentate. I should be able 2 commentate on MKDD or SSBM also. "Screw u guys, I'm going home."

Black Shark Clan

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"


OMID WTF MAN. FIX UR ****** POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

how can u guys have 9 new comments in the past like 45 minutes 9 dammit. noah eli is the one who decides the final commentating so we dont know. but i have an extended version of tom's commentating idea but i'm not going to say it until eli tells us who the real commentators are.

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i dont think he can edit his post cuz u can only edit ur last post and he made a post after that. omid u ************************* lol thats like a mad-lib.

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Back by popular demand (one person that is popular and he demanded it so hence popular demand) is my old school (defined as older then the updated site) Flame. Today’s victim is flare.

Flare "Sweet Zombie Jesus!" you are annoying. First off the reason we don't like to have to come here and read 50 posts is because you feebleminded chronic poster post stupid off topic stuff in the middle of a discussion about rules and regulations making the attempt of following the conversation confusing and frustrating. In my mind I want to be able to come here and spend at max 5 mins reading and then be able to write a comprehendible and intelligent post to contribute to the blog in a positive way. Some of us aren't going to be able to come here daily because of having homework or other commitments so if You are going to post of topic stuff do it on another form or talk on that “I think I’m technologically savvy so I’m going to use a bad program to talk to my friends” or otherwise known as AIM to talk about it but stop posting them here. I know you may be going for that Darwin award sometime in the near future Flare but saying "GROW UP AND COMPRIMISE LIKE ONLY BANNING 1 THING CAN YOU ALL LIVE WITH THAT INSTEAD OF BEING LITTLE BABIES BICKIRING OVER EVERY LITTLE THING I MEAN COME ON" shows how little you know about the system frankly as I stand right now I see no need to ban anything no one has made any augment yet that has changed my view nobody has even come close to presenting an augment as good mine for banning stages and I don’t even care for my own. So I’m waiting for someone with a brain, scarecrow, to give me a reason to change my mind so that I could see a compromise being needed. But so far every point to ban has been contradicted you peon so I don’t know why we need a compromise in the first place. So go and get a brain so that you can talk on an intellectual level above engrish or go and live in Kansas with your hick brethren so you can get hit by a tornado and have a fairy-tale drug trip with munchkins prancing around while you stuff your self with straw and hope to get a brain. And what’s up with you having 6 or so accounts If you don’t like your name there is a little thing that allows you to change you name I mean come on I can’t tell who you are half the time just hold 1 account and when you get tried of that name just change it and all those posts you made ages ago can still be linked to you because the name on those posts changes with it. As for the randomness bit getting a random break in one battle doesn’t help you in the long run you should realize that if you get into the elimination rounds by luck the possibility that you could just win by luck in the semi-final or finals is real slim so your complete augment is total non-sense it make less sense then half of Alice in wonderland. And for the sake of everyone learn to use grammar I know it must be hard for people with such low IQs but come on learn how to before you even try to do a high school essay. You wouldn’t get better then a D+ with that kind of spelling and grammar. I’m starting to think that calling you a scarecrow is an insult to scarecrows because they can at least walk and talk at the same time.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Haha I made 2 lines even with the blog broken. Oh and the next person to break a blog is getting flamed so stop it.


wow my eyes really hurt from reading ur post cuz i had to keep the scroll thing going left and the letters were sorta blurry. duck eli said i had good arguments NOT banning those items and he didnt say squat about ur argument(forgive me if i'm mistaken). the disses should stop moving to flare and start moving to omid cuz flare will kick ur ass in melee any day. if u have a problem reading 50 of his posts a day then y dont u go read another fourm like the one called high schoolers who think they are better then middle schoolers in every way humanly possible just kidding lol. so guys ignore flare and start dissing omid.

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wow ok thats super i didnt say 50 i havent used a name other than flare in weeks check your own spelling b4 you criticize others a comprimise was needed when i wrote that which was like 2 days before i posted it in fact when i posted it i felt like an insult to scare crows but do i really care you know flame me all you want i get like 30 times that at scxhool so youre words dont matter to me in fact i actully thought (thats right thought) youre insults could be a bit better i mean the scarecrow thing got boring after thhe first 3 jokes so if you are going flame me go right ahead just know that youre doing it to some1 who doesnt give a god**** mother******* s***

"Such foul and fair a day I have not seen"


Eli can we make a fourm for the people that actully talk about Mkdd and Melee and don't just make random posts. So we could have Leinad, Tom, jlgelinas, Bad driver, Tp2, BCL and myself because no one else seems to want to talk about them.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


cough high schoolers cough. u forgot joe

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I just moved to ann arbor; but i have to say you video game freaks make me sick. You guys argue so much and a common denominator of these arguments are that flare person why dont you ingnoring his posts for the next few weeks and then see how things turn out

P.S. I dont care if Flare reads this


I only wanted people that proved intelligent that's why I left Joe out. And I think the flame was intended for Prince Marth because he seems to produce the most off topic posts but I went by instructions and said Flare.

Oh new person I think the fact that you don't like augments shows how much of an idiot you are debates are used to educate people so you not liking them makes me put you in the brainwashed idiot pool.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


i dont dislike arguments i just dont like arguments where 1 side is cleary right while the other just keeps trying to prove things by saying irrational things


i do infact have the most off topic comments and any one who says differently is wrong anyways im notgonna be at the next tourny so im not gonna post for a while so do what ever you want i dont care


By the way i am going to destroy at the next tournament so prepare yourself


it wouldn't be much of an argument then right thats y its over already. now now duck its not nice to be mean to the new kid. duck i didnt mean to offend u in my previous comments i was just kidding. new kid are u any good at melee or mario kart double dash? this is the world champions league where all the good players use marth,fox, or dr.mario lol. we are all world champions we went to different tournaments across america and usually we win then but sometimes we lose. good that the blog is fixed the only 2 ppl i kow who could have fixed it would be erik and eli but how come they didnt post something to tell us to stop arguing?

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Because they like us Arguing and don't have the time.

Come on someone fix the Vaccinated monk clan so that we can have Tom and Leinad join plus the other surprise person. Also I'm just going to assume that I can Make a badge because no one said otherwise.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


Who is this Ephriam kid? How does he know about this site? He just moved into Ann Arbor? How does he know about all of this axis aadl stuff? Can he do the truffle shuffle? How good is he? He probably can't beat me.

Black Shark Clan

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"


well im your worst nightmare; and im good at mkdd but I could use some improvment in melee i cant figure out how to dodge or use smash attacks and i have a friend who talked about how stupid it was for the library to have a videogame tournament and i probley could not beat you


Sweet.


Can u do the truffle shuffle? Can u do mini turbo?

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"


no and yes


What exactly is wave dashing? Please answer so i can get it over with.

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"


finally someone is talking about the topic. And whoever is bragging out there and is showing off means that they are horrible at melee. Trust me, i've met those people. Hey duck, how's it going with go club?
ok that was pretty random. Anyway, you guys are really mean just choosing who to diss at.


omid i am sorry will u forgive me?

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YES I FINISHED MY HOMEWORK!>!>!

BLACK SHARK!!!!! the TRuffle Shuffle has nothing to do with mcdd or Melee, I googled it and it does not have anything to do with nintendo in general so why are you asking the new guy if he can........

anyway... wave dashing you can google, basically it is air dogding very close to the ground that allows your character to glid across the screen, go to google and type in wave dashing ssb and you will get all the answers

SRavan: bowser,jk it does not matter, since i may not go to next tournament.


if u dont go then who is tp2's sub. u were really good so he needs to find someone good to replace him. right now i am laughing that u use bowserbut my friend's freshman in college brother who is a melee master is pretty good with him he beat me when i used luigi. but actually i am proud that u use bowser all these n00bs who use swordsman and sheik suck except for the ones that post on the blog. 7/8 of the ppl at last months tournament used swordsman and i saw a lot of falos and a couple of samuses. there was 1 yoshi who was rod and galen who was dr.mario and me, post, and joe who were fox. bowser does not suck i was just laughing cuz i never have seen a bowser master. lol u look everything up on google have u ever seen the goonies or family guy?

wow i just looked back at ur comment and realized u didnt use bowser o well i made a small point.

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What are you in high school Omid how do you know about Go club? We haven't met at school yet but I'm currently publicity officer or something around those lines.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


duck omid told me he saw u at pioneer. LMAO thats the funniest thing i have ever heard omid in high school he is so short he is like a 6th grader. he is in 8th grade at tappan. lots of ppl who go to these tournaments go to A2Open...

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Oh the're from the lazy stoner school Ok.

Oh I guess I should tell you guys that they put the updated Leaderboard up.

Eli can we just get the points for Figwit without having to make her come to the site I don't want to bother her to much she just moved or is moving to Cal.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


lol duck there is something weird about that school...
the leaderboard looks good but omid who was "the loser" at the tournament is part of black sharks clan and i can't belive omid got less points then his sister LMAO.

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You found the new board I though it would take you longer.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


haha very funny. i think we set a record with most # of comments in one day including my comment we have around 45 comments total today which is really sad cuz half of it was arguing and there was no point to it.

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hate you guys with every inch of my body...say 888 if you actualy read ducks long post. seriously u guys like live on this site...45 posts...STOP IT!!!hmm ohhhhh snap tomorow is activity day!! and if you go to mack school, do you know nick wallace?

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i did, 888


I saw the new leaderboard on http://www.aadl.org/aadlgt. Don't make fun of Omid just because he has less points than his sis'. Nilofar is pretty good at these games. I also see that Omid is still N/A for some reason and his points were still counted towards our clan. I see that the bonus points have not been counted again. Unless Vaccinated Monks got bonus points, we should be ahead of them because we have 3 new players(Omid because he didn't go 2 the AADL-GT Grand Tourney, according 2 Eli, Nick11, and Nilofar) which should give us 303 points and a total of 1643 points, which should get us in 4th place unless VM clan has bonus points, also. I'm at least in the top 40(#34, 20 points behind Nick11, who is #31). So maybe sometime u can include bonus points maybe after the next tourney. Peace Out!

Black Shark Clan


I brought 5 people plus our new member makes 6. Its not like we are going to let you get ahead of us black shark.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


hey eli, is there something wrong with the system, am i deleted out or something...can you answer all of our questions? where r u? and duck, i saw you at the registration thing at pioneer, and you kept saying hi whenever i passed ur table. so dont act like you don't remember me


hey prince marth, could i be like, your sub dude?


omid is young link and prince marth. joe my friend is having a halo2 party. i dont know when but its this month in one of the weekends(not the weekend of the axis tournament). we are gonna have 3 TVS and 3 xboxes with 12 people so like 3v3v3v3 which is a new xbox playlist i belive.

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Eli, can u get bonus points from subs in your clan, because Sravan says he got 404 points for new people that aren't primaries, don't they have 2 be primaries to get the bonus points? Answer me Eli! Where R U!?

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"


sravan: READ MY EMAIL WOOHOOO!!!

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You get points for every new person you bring including one time subs.

Oh that’s right I forgot who you were. You’re the short kid that was trailing his sister around that I Kept pestering.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


cool halo2 song. i read ur email. who is here that is any good with peach? she is the best character to kill a falco other then marth.

BOO YA I GOT THE LINK.

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""Blow Me Away"

[Verse 1:]
They fall in line
One at a time
Ready to play
(I can't see them anyway)
No time to lose
We've got to move
Steady your hand
(I am losing site again)

[Bridge:]
Fire your guns
It's time to run
Blow me away
(I will stay, in the mess I made)
After the fall
We'll shake it off
Show me the way

[Chorus:]
Only the strongest will survive
Lead me to heaven, when we die
I am the shadow on the wall
I'll be the one to save us all

[Verse 2:]
There's nothing left
So save your breath
Lying in wait
(Caught inside this tidal wave)
Your cover's blown
No where to go
Holding your fate
(Loaded I will walk alone)

[Bridge:]
Fire your guns
It's time to run
Blow me away
(I will stay, in the mess I made)
After the fall
We'll shake it off
Show me the way

[Chorus:]
Only the strongest will survive
Lead me to heaven, when we die
I am the shadow on the wall
I'll be the one to save us all

Don't want it back
(Don't fight me now)
Sravan, I told u about this song, remember? Duck, were u just talking about me, because Prince Marth is the short kid who is trailing his sister, not me.

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thank u for posting the lyrics when they can just listen to the song.

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Since this is going nowhere, I'm just going to say thank you duck.


What did I do?

Wow the clan points got rescored the Turtle clan is now in the lead.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


You gave me the name that is just perfect for me.


The entire clan points got reworked.
1 Turtle Clan 3130
2 Skillz dat killZ 3080
3 Trouble Monkey Clan 2730
4 Black Shark 1340
5 Vaccinated Monks 1340
6 Turtle clan 2(T Unit) 600

What Scarecrow?

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"