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Leaderboard

by eli

Ok, we've got some new features in our system, and we're proud to present the first ever Season Clan and Player leaderboards. There may still be a few issues here, of course, so if you've got questions, ask away. Also note that these are the only clans for which I have registration information. If your clan played last weekend, and you're not listed, post a comment or drop an email to axis@aadl.org and we'll get you all set.

First of all, we've got a bit of a surprise on the Clan Leaderboard after 1 round. With 5 Clans competing so far, the Clan Champ of round 1 is....

Skillz dat Killz!
-- Earnist da Chicken
-- J's Coolio
-- MonkeyMan
-- Doomblaze

Total Round 1 score: 4000 points

Skillz dat Killz, made up of 4 wildcards from season 1, storms out of nowhere to rack up the most points out of any clan competing at round 1. They secure their spot in the Clan Cup in december, narrowly edging out second place Turtle Clan (3940 points) and the third place Trouble Monkey Clan (3850 points). Here's the full clan leaderboard:

1. Skillz dat Killz (4000)
2. Turtle Clan (3940)
3. Trouble Monkey Clan (3850)
4. Vaccinated Monks (1360)
5. Black Shark Clan (1340)
6. Turtle Clan 2: T-unit (600)

I know there are some other clans that we didn't get registered, so let me know and I'll get you set up. Also, this is without recruitment bonuses applied; recruitment bonuses only count toward your leaderboard score, and can't help you win a single round. We'll get recruitment bonuses sorted out over the next few weeks, but we will only credit the clan that the new member says recruited them, so get your recruits online and in here to tell us that you recruited them!

So, here, also, are the top 32 players on the Individual Leaderboard:

1. Earnist Da Chicken (1785)
2. c0N (1695)
3. TurtlePerson2 (1680)
4. pr0 (1515)
5. anti snowman (1305)
6. Jimmy (1140)
7. Post (1130)
8. Doomblaze (1040)
9. Ice (905)
10. *Flare* (895)
11. Corey (865)
12. Bad driver (740)
13. Gnato (695)
14. Ion (670)
15. Monkeyman (660)
16. bbqkitten (625)
17. Chris R (615)
18. DrewE (565)
19. J's Coolio (515)
20. jlgelinas (515)
21. Duck (485)
22. zyke (465)
23. Joe S (455)
24. aaron (440)
25. D-Rex (435)
26. KingBoo (435)
27. Paul K (420)
28. John (395)
29. The Gamer (395)
30. AKIA (390)
31. Nick11 (385)
32. Balla (375)

Ok, got questions? I knew you would. Fire away, but bear in mind I'm off to PAX tomorrow morning, and may not get to all your questions until next week.

Comments

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. o well congrads to skillz dat killz clan for getting 1st place. that was soooooo close with a 150 point gap between 1st and 3rd place. with recruiment bonuses the turtle clan will go on top and we will be 2nd. then there is a 2000 point gap between 3rd and 4th which is suprising but yea these are the 4 clans that are going to be in the clan cup based on score. if we would have played out each of the melee events when we had 4 players left and 5 teams left the trouble monkeys would have soooooooooooooooooooo won. that was unfair that u played out the team mario kart event with 4 teams left but u didnt do the melee event. joe we have to have flare in our clan and KICK DEREK OUT. he got 10th place and u got 23rd. joe u better practice up so this wont happen again.

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In reply to by TheKoolAidGuy

wait a second i just added up me,galen,joe, and rod's score on a calculater and i got 4290??? how come it says 3850 on the leaderboard?
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how can the turtle clan get 2nd when all their players arent even in the top 32??

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Recruitment bonuses probably. I think they brought in the entire TP2 clan or something <_<.

And I'm not surprised to see all three new comments are yours, sravan.

EDIT: My Bad, Sravan

Sravan Eli had to rework the point scoring system. Oh and with the Turtle clan if you looked at tp2's post in the last blog he said he had antisnowman. So TurtlePerson2 (1680), anti snowman (1305), Bad driver (740) plus JFin2000 (215) = 3940. How did I get 5 points? It wasn't possible to score in the 1's digit since you multiplied everything by ten. Eli, you must have overhauled the scoring system.

Oh and hahahahahahaha Trouble Monkey Clan is only 3rd place.

Reminder Adam, Devin, Connor, Mike, Maria are the new recruits. Leinad and tom the first four are all from the same organiztion.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Sravan the reason our clan got second was because, I triple qualified I also had 2 firsts in single player kart. So did B.D. Anti-Snowman got third which helped us a lot. Padouk was at music camp, but he will be there for the next tournament and we will clean up.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"

Eli, isnt the Black Shark Clan registered? I think it is. Maybe were not up there because we don't have very many points.
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"Dude! You made out with your SISTER!"

no way duck, did u see my 2nd post, we got 4290. thanks for spelling my name wrong joseph. but even if we did get 4290 and won the tournament the turtle clan will be ahead cuz they got another clan. we only got 4 players who didnt form a clan. there is a problem with this point system as duck said how can some one get a 5 in the units place if everything was multiplied by 10?

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OMFG ANOTHER THING I ADDED UP THE SKILLZ DAT KILLZ CLAN'S SCORE FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL PLAYER AND THEY GOT 3980 NOT 4000.

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noah nick got 385 and i am positive that u,omid, and his sister got more then 215 total. u didnt tell eli who was in ur clan thats y he didnt add it up otherwise u guys would be in 5th place.

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oops actually the skillz dat killz did get 4000 my bad but the trouble monkey clan DID GET 4290 POINTS and i added it up 3 times with a calculater and as duck said Jfinn2000 had to have gotten 215 to make that work. duck if u dont belive me about the trouble monkeys add it up urself. on the plus side the noise makers didnt make in the leaderboard.

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For some reason I think Eli had some conversion problems. I now remember how you can get 5 points. In team events the points are split between 2 people so you could recieved a 5.

I bet the reason you didn't get that high score of your's is because bbqkitten team up with flare and flare isn't in your team.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

but then half of all the teams points should go to rod and half of all points for joe's team should go to joe. y does the individual scores match up with the clan score for skillz dat killz but not the trouble monkeys if it is based on all the players individual points added up?

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I was trying to tell you that you didn't recieve all the points of rod's, Because he didn't compete with a clanmate in team Melee.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Yup, Duck is right. If Joe and Rod had been melee partners, you guys would have won. If you want your team points to count for your clan, BOTH team mates have to be playing for your clan. As it was, neither Joe nor Rod's team melee points count for your clan. Sorry! However, I don't think you guys have anything to worry about if you keep posting those kinds of numbers.

Black shark, I have some data for your clan, but I wasn't sure it was right. What 4 players were playing for your clan on saturday? Let me know, and I'll fix it and edit to post to add your score. And the noise maker didn't make the leaderboard because I don't know who their players were. After they let me know, they'll be on the leaderboard.

Also, remember that recruitment bonuses have not yet been applied. That will change things around a bit, but it won't change who wins a round. Recruitment bonuses are applied between rounds and don't count toward a clan's single round points.

<em><strong>Coming next week...</strong></em> Live leaderboard updates on your <a href="/aadlgt/">AADL-GT</a> page.

Plus I will hopefully be able to show your individual results from all events, so you won't have to remember whether you placed 2nd or 3rd in your 2nd qualifying match of the 3rd event of the day.

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<STRONG>JOE THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!!! WHY DID YOU BRING DANNY?!?!! HE SUCKED AT TEAM MARIO KART AND WE LOST POINTS CAUSE OF HIM!!!!!!</STRONG>
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Eli, my clan team is made of me Black Shark(Noah Trobe), Nick11(Nick Kern), The Loser(Omid Behbahani-Nejad), and Nilofar(Nilofar Behbahani-Nejad) This is our proud team logo. And I really hate it when cheat codes dont work. Im really angry rite now.

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"Dude! You made out with your SISTER!"

yes this is all joe's fault i TOLD HIM THAT I HAD A SUB but nooo he had to go out and get some other kid who SUCKED. anyway i get the logic behind it and it WONT HAPPEN AGAIN RIGHT JOE. thanks duck. at the next tournament can we finish the final battles of the top teams and players in team and single melee?? it was unfair that u did that for mario kart and not the melee events. is the individual leaderboard significant to getting the prizes in december. joe work on ur melee skills u are already really good at mario kart just practice melee. i also triple qualified tp2. galen dont worry we are still in da zone of the clan cup we have a major lead on the vaccinated monks. with referals i predict that the turtle clan will go on top with us at 2nd because i dont think that the winning clan read this blog and knew that u can get points for referals. i just rented dodgeball and its supposed to be one of the best selling dvds ever but anyway i heard its funny.

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Heres what happened, I checked out the cheat codes 4 Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 2. It said there was a way 2 unlock everything from the capsule shop. This idiot wrote a cheat code that didn't work that goes like this(I copyed and pasted it from the website he said this:

Skill Shop Trick

Ah, here's the ULTIMATE Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 2 secret. Basically, if you do not wish to go through Dragon World Mode 30 times or to go through the World Tournment over and over to get Zenie to buy Skill Capsules, you can do this. It IS cheating, so if you want to play fair, don't do this. When you enter the Skill Shop, Bulma will great you. Hold down the L Button and then leave and then re-enter the store, then leave again and repeat this, all while holding down the L Button. As you do this, you WILL notice your Capsule Percentage rising slowly but surely. Doing this will unlock EVERYTHING. Characters, Breakthrough Capsules, the whole nine yards. Enjoy this code, as it can save you precious time and countless hours of boring work.

It didn't ****in' work! I have tried it so many times. It would have been great 2 unlock everything quicker, but I guess it really was 2 good 2 be true. I rented this game, so Im not going 2 waste my money for overdueness, **** it. It will take a very long time 2 unlock everything "manually." So once again, **** it! Unless Eli knows something about this game or he could ask someone at PAX about the game, Im sure somebody would. Ask 2 copy their DBZ B2 game file into a memory card, u could take one with u. I dunno? w/e. Eli could have used this game in the tournament 4 the surprise round. It would have been great just copying from my memory card. I guess we cant do this game. I was able 2 unlock every attack in Budokai 1, we can copy from that.

"Dude! You made out with your SISTER!"

In reply to by California Love

You do know I wasn't really trying to get points. I was there just to have fun with my friends.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Ok, thanks Black Shark, I've updated the clan leaderboard. Omid also had two registrations, so I've sorted that out.

I can say that it's highly unlikely I would pick a fighting game as a surprise round game. First, we're already playing plenty of melee, and second, the advantage is too great to experienced players. I want to use games that have a short learning curve, with relatively simple controls. In a fighting game, it's all about secret moves and combos... much harder for someone who's never played it to have a chance.

U can give the usual practice time on this game. Come on Eli, this game is really easy and really fun. Come on. Come on. I can teach them. It'll be like "snap!"

"Dude! You made out with your SISTER!"

Umm I just looked at the clan page for the vaccinated monks and you guys listed Figwig, Supersunflower, and evil bus driver as the primary members. The reality is they were all subs. I am sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. Leinad, Major Tom and another surprise person that hasn't been to a tournament yet are the primaries.

Figwig graduated and is moving 1000 miles away and evil bus driver already has an iPod shuffle so they weren’t meant to be primaries. I guess Eli didn’t put them there you (Eli) should have known I was clan mates with Tom and Dan. But I’m thinking you might have needed to put names there to calculate the clan totals.

<em>Oh yeah, Trouble Monkey Clan all I have to say is good job.</em>

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Whoops, no worries duck. I messed that up. You were the first clan I entered, and I didn't realize that I was changing the primaries. We'll sort it out next round once Tom and Leinad are in the system.

In reply to by Sir Ducksalot

Duck wasn't there a rule about having at least 2 primaries at a tournament. So if these three weren't primaries then you would have to forfeit all the clan points they earned. If not you would have to keep them.

Of course I don't think that it really matters. It's okay with me if Eli lets you slide.

Monkeys stop complaining our sub probably got as many points as our's and we're not complaining.

BTW we brought 4 people: Anti-Snowman,Snowman,Dark Markth, Uberninja. (We'll have more next tournament.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"

In reply to by TurtlePerson2 (not verified)

You only needed one primary and that was me.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Eli, can we make a clan logo and then change it midseason?

Duck - do we have aclan logo yet or not? If not I think I'll use my uber1337 art skills (O_o...) to make one.

"There is no spoon." -Neo

have u guys ever tried green shells only on very high on final destination its really crazy. just use fox or falco and keep reflecting whenever a computer throws one at u. i just reliazed that there is a cheap thing u can do at corneria and make it really hard for u to die. joe u sure derek is good with the character that he uses and do u really have xbox live? if so whats ur gamertag? joe i know danny wasent our sub but u were still on a team with him and u got 8th so that really hurt our points. eli already knows that rod was a sub. joe we are gonna win next time since we will have derek and there will be less people.

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No I haven't found any good logos. I'm sure we could change it midseason. You know leet I never knew that.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Thanx 4 the new Lboard update. But now Im sad. we only have 1340 points! But we will have more points for the recruiting though. Nick11 and Nilofar r newcomers.

"Dude! You made out with your SISTER!"

In reply to by California Love

yea but duck will have more for his 3 subs and his 1 new primary member. i just finished watching dodgeball and ben stiller is hillarious. i also found out that skillz dat killz is a team in the dodgeball tournament in the movie. i dont know if they copied them or didnt know that but guys how original. is there even a DBZ tournament at PAX? well i guess we lost cuz of the careless of one of our players but we will get u next time arg(steve the pirate). have fun at PAX tell me who wins the melee tournament. maybe we should do single elimination just like PAX have it 1 on 1 2 stock 3 minutes single elimination with no march madness what so ever.

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my bad. were not booting derek.
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I brought 6 recruits not including Muffincat.

You know if we do have DBZ it will be a tournament in which black shark doesn't qualify.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

hey when I got in the prize round last tourntment eli said that I was in for the december grand one, so then why am I not on the big list of people, Or am I just stipid and have yet to get the system, and yes I'm not a primary in any clan, I have yet to be adopted, but that's probably because I have to work on my skill,

please answer me, I would like to know.

muffincat, the individual leaderboard is just a rundown of the total individual points earned in all events. To qualify for the grand championships you only needed to finish near the top in one event.

If you were in the prize round at the last tournament (playing Bomberman), then you are qualified for the grand championships regardless of how many total points you earned in all the events.

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ok joe we will keep derek but u guys gotta practice melee a LOT. anyway i am so sad that summer is over i feel like crying(not really). joe earlier u said that u were gonna bring a clan what happened to that?

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In reply to by muffincat

I hope that dunk kid doesn't come/use that name because that was confusing trying to figure out where to go.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

I am just saying Murphy's Law would make it so you didn't get into the prize round.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Murphy's Law is "Anything that can go wrong will".

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

lol duck. which characters did Corey Atwater and The Post use? howcome all the people who used shiek there werent that good. fox should be on top of the tier list and marth should be 2nd.

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how come flare isnt posting anymore?

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I can't believe this is happening. After midnite 2 nite, we only have 2 days left before we have 2 go 2 school.

"Dude! You made out with your SISTER!"

if a tree falls down in the middle of the woods and no one hears it does it make a sound?
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Yes, new page.

For the tree question it Depends if it's in a vacuum or an atmosphere.

Sravan I'm alright with Sheik but I'm much better with Marth. The sheiks at the competition just play her because her physical abilities are well balanced. They just don't know how to compensate for her low weight so they get killed easily.

"Oh, they say madness runs in our family. Some even call me mad. And why? Because I dared to dream of my own race of atomic monsters, atomic supermen with octagonal shaped bodies that suck blood..."

sweet...oh yeah and sravan, calculate our score with fly or sly or whoever my melee partner was as our sub. DANNY WAS NOT OUR SUB. I think that should change the scores a lil bit.
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Can't you guys just give it a rest, you lost this round because you weren't paying attention to what you were doing for the longrun.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

derek needs to get better at melee...he has gotten waaaaaaaaay better at kart. hes amazing now. he got 9.482 on a lap in baby park. my gamertag is jsmores. do u have halo 2, ncaa 2005, or counterstrike?
and im not talking about rod as our sub. it was that one guy that was rods friend that i played with in team melee. derek, danny and i saw the 40 year old virgin. that. was. funny. "I hope you got a big trunk. Cuz im puttin my bike in it."
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i can wavedash with luigi in training mode with 1/3 speed on lol. my xbox broke but i had halo 2 and i was amazingly good but galen is better then me in melee. JOE !@#$%^&*())(*&^%$#@! DEREK GOT 9.4 SECONDS IN BABY PARK. i bet he used his 2 mushrooms. one thing bad about shiek is her recovery move(up-B)is very short range unlike fox whose is longer. i use fox cuz his is a lot longer then falco's but falco can jump higher. what do u mean by vacuum? joe i have ncaa 2005 but i wasent that good and galen has cs and he is ok at it.
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its raining its pouring the old man is snoring.
he went to bed and hit his head and couldnt get up in the morning.
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I can wavedash not consistently yet. Anti-Snowman my partner can do it really well. About 90 % of the time. I read about it as well as 10 other techniques the day before the tournament, but I didn't have time to learn most of them.

In reply to by TurtlePerson2 (not verified)

I can wavedash every once in a while but it won't do me much good in a competition yet. I much better doing it after a long fall then from a standing position.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

What is this 4th no 5th time someong asked this? below the comment box there is this plus sign click it.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

I mean how do you put your own imiges on there! not just the ones on there already!

You can't to my knowledge. If you want Eli to add your clan logo send him an email with the Image.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

im ernist da chicken and i just wanted 2 say im happy that im on top and good luck 2 every1...eli can i email u a logo that i want 4 my clan and u put it up 4 me???

its really hard to wavedash in a battle. can u guys do it with regular speed? which character do u use?
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I can do it normal speed just erratically. I use Marth Mainly but I am alright with Luigi, Zelda/Sheik and Fox. My best wavedashs are with Luigi. I find certain levels are easier to wavedash. Levels with steep slopes are the best for me.

I would really like to know which characters other people use? Since everyone at the last tournament used link, Young link, Roy, Marth, or Sheik I most interested in people that don't use those characters.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

i used fox, galen used DR, rod used yoshi, ugo and 2 other ppl used falco, and also joe used fox.
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huh someone uses Yoshi. Well that's a surprise and annoying because I hate fight yoshi. I expected several Falcos and foxs.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

I practiced wave dashing today. I can do it consistently now with Marth. (About two minutes ago I did 3 in a row at full speed during battle.)

Leinad who is your melee partner and who do they play as.

Also I have a theory that kart has really become almost all luck. If you get 8 people together who can pull off mini turbos chances are one person won't win more than 25% of the time.

BTW 9.4 is good, but I have seen someone break 9.

Also how did earnist chicken get first (he got 2nd surprize 800 pts.). He only single qualified. Did he do well in the other competitions and just not qualify.

School starts on Monday. I'm taking Phy Sci Algebra 3,4 AC, and Spanish 3AC. My amount of time on video games might decrease. (Last year I did about half an hour of home work or less).

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"

In reply to by TurtlePerson2 (not verified)

Do we have Melee partners yet and who does tom play with?

Maybe if they all play the same must be first all time way. I still find my strategy to be highly effective.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

I can wave dash with decent consistency - I want to say 80-90 % of the time it works. My real problem is that I can only short hop three quarters of the time in training, and almost never in actual battle =(

jlgenials i short hop all the time in battle it is essential with fox. who do u use jlgelinas? is it true that u cant make the december finals tp2? there are only 2 decent fox players and they are me and mini blin. do u guys know who the post and corey atwater used?? i just saw the 40 year odl virgin and it was so funny as joe said. i didnt get the end part with the weird song but the whole theater was cracking up. who does anti-snowman use? i cant belive summer is already over i am so sad...have u guys ever caught an electrode and threw it at someone else without getting hurt but they did? have u guys ever caught a bomb? have u guys ever power shielded? i love this intimidating thing where everyone says that they can wavedash to scare their opponents! u guys should watch the decline of video gaming series on the web(its only 3 movies each 10 minutes long) they are on flashplayer(dot)com. i did that to seperate it from the period. u know the cool thing is that i start school on wednesday and u guys have to start on monday HA. do u guys get friday off cuz we do.do u guys know how wavedashing is useful u can just do a normal rolling dodge right BTW no one at the tournament used that i mean no one. anyone here has the diskun trophy?
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whats the prize for PAX? i bet its like a free game or something lol.
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Ok, lets have a vote on Dragon Ball Z Budokai 1 or 2 4 the surprize round. Vote for either one:
1.Just Budokai 1 this season
2.Just Budokai 2 this season
3.Both
4.Neither

I sure hope none of u will pick #4

"Dude! You made out with your SISTER!"

I have picked up an electrod and thrown it without getting hurt but that was a long time ago I can't seem to do it now.4

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noah it doesnt matter what we pick in the end its eli's decision to choose the suprise round game and if he relizes that people are good at DBZ then he wont choose it cuz its an unfair advantage. flare u know that big guy in soul caliber 2 i think and he has that huge sword isnt he really cheap? i heard one of the skiny girls were good too. u beat me cuz i'm not good fighting other foxes when i'm fox its like fighting myself...i was having an off day anyway...
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what are u guys doing up so late when school is about to start. u are gonna be sleeping in class and thats not a good first impression.
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yeah nightmare i wasnt suggesting that we play that cause eli al ready said he doesnt want a fighting game but im still decent using fox and i dont need sleep when i have adult swim to keep me awake

In reply to by The Melancholy…

haha adult swim-family guy and bender
artist and song

My shadows the only one that walks beside me
My shallow hearts the only thing that's beating
Sometimes I wish someone out there will find me
Till then I walk alone
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and athf and inuyasha and fullmetal alchemist and cowboy bebop

Three rings for the elven kings under the sky
seven for the the dwarf lords in their halls of stone
nine for mortal men dommed to die
and one for the dark lord on his dark throne in the land of Mordor where the shadows lie one ring to find them one ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them in the land of Mordor where the shadows lie

TP2 - my partner is Tom. I'm not telling who he plays as :-)

I can short-hop, but again, I don't use it in battle. The only "advanced technique" I'm trying to incorporaste into my game is teching. The rest just aren't fitting in with how I'm trying to play.

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teching? its kinds hard to short hop with falco cuz he jumps higher with fox but its easier to wavedash with a lot of characters then fox because he falls fast. take bowser for example his jump is 9 frames so u have more time to wavedash but fox's jump is only 4 frames. do u guys know how to sheild-grab i never use it but its a useful technique.
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did u guys know that leinad's last comment was the 1600th comment! how do i know i'm psycic and i didnt count them up.
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Leinad knowing who you play as I can't imagine a character that would be a good complement. Or a surprise.

TurtlePerson2 wants to know why are you talking about yourself in the 3rd person.

"TORTURIS EXUVIAS EUNT"

sravan wonders y bcl didnt read my old post saying that he plays with falco. well he did in july.
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haha who ever u are u shouldnt make any assumptions. u havent seen the competition there. are u a newcomer? everyone post ur high scores for melee and mario kart(home run contest break the targets, time trials points in the grand prix etc.). in mario kart i got 154 points for 150cc all cup tour and 150 for mirror mode. i got a perfect score in all other things like flower cup and all cup 50 and 100cc. for melee i got the sheriff trophy so the total number of minutes for all characters in break the targets is 12.5 minutes so its an average of 30 seconds per character but my best is 9 seconds with game and watch. for home run contest i got about 1300-1400 with gannondorf and 1200-1300 with captian falcon but i did it on black shark's memory card :(. my lowest is DK with 534 i think.
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Let’s see my best scores. Cruel melee I have 6 maybe 7 Kos with Roy. Home run I have about 1450 with Roy. I usually get about 6-10sec. faster then the computer on 150cc kart races, I think my longest lead was about 20 sec.s on Yoshi circuit. About 2 weeks ago I managed to master the DK mountain half pipe jump with out having to half pipe it.

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pardon my friend hes a bit hasty and overeager but hes good but just out of practice

Three rings for the elven kings under the sky
Seven for the the dwarf lords in their halls of stone
Nine for mortal men dommed to die
and one for the dark lord on his dark throne in the land of Mordor where the shadows lie one ring to find them one ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them in the land of Mordor where the shadows lie

o then i should apoligize if u are flare's friend then u are my friend. r u better then flare?
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In reply to by The Melancholy…

yea i'm watching the VMA's. i'll make a post about it when its over at 11pm
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In reply to by TheKoolAidGuy

I think we should have DBZ Budokai 1 or 2 in the surprise round, man. If u guys vote yes on this game, it might convince Eli 2 put it in a surprise round of the tournament. So come on, vote for the right choice, and then do the TRUFFLE SHUFFLE.

"Chunks does the Truffle Shuffle"

Ok now, it is time 2 name that lyric:
We depend on your protection,
Still you feed us lies from the tablecloth.
La la la la la la la la.
Everybody's going to the party, have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert, waking up the sunshine.
Everybody's going 2 the party, have a real good time.
Dancing in the desert, waking up the sunshine.

Now guess, and then again, do the TRUFFLE SHUFFLE.

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So are you willing to supple 8 copies of DBZ for the tournament? Because if your not I don't think Eli is going to cave in. He did it for the preseason because you guys would complain if Madden didn't make the cut and The preseason didn't matter, if he caved in on this we would force him to have Star Fox: Assault where we would crush you and sweep the tournament. So shut up about DBZ.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Eli what do you do with the surprise round games after the tournament ends?

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

noah listen to duck. i already said this and i'm gonna say it again noah if u keep mentioning DBZ then eli wont have it as a suprise game. its called a suprise game so it should be unknown to everyone. how did u get 1450 with roy i got about 950 with him. how many all cup tour points do u have for 150cc and mirror duck? did eli already say no to this but maybe we can do mirror mode as a suprise game or we can do super sudden death etc. i guess eli keeps them.
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In reply to by TheKoolAidGuy

Fine, I'll shut up about DBZ, but I'll be bumed though, I sure hope Eli has some good surprise games coming up. Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Im bumed beCAUSE SCHOLL STARTS IN 10 HOURS.

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has any1 ever noticed that in event macth 51 that gannondorf and mewtwo are extremly easy (i beat them with 1 live left while they each had threeand giga bowser)

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i hate these awkward silences so im going to post small talk until some1 replies

"If you're gonna smoke do it right or not at all"

youre dress is so nice it goes well with my eyes i mean youre eyes NO I AM NOT KILLING YOURE DOG DOGS SHOULDENT DIE BECAUSE YOU SHOT OLD MCDONALD ON HIS FARM

SWORDS ARE SHINY DONT YOU THINK I DO I LOVE SHINY THINGS AND STABBY POINTY THINGS LIKE DAGGERS AND SWORDS I LIKE SWORDS DO YOU LIKE SWORDS CAUSE I LIKE SWORDS BLADES ARE LIKE SWORDS ONLY THEY ARE STRONGER AND HEVIER THEN SWORDS FIRE EMBLEM IS SO MUCH FUN I LOVE HOW CRAZY JAFAR IS WITH HIS CRAZYILY INSANE CRITCALS THAT CAN KILL IN 1 HIT NO MATTER WHAT JUST LIKE ORBIT GUM MAKES YOURE TEETH SHINE SOAP MAKES YOURE SWORD SHINE SNINY REMINDS ME OF SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE CAUSE YOU MAKE EVERY THING SHINY AND CLEAN LIKE WITH YOURE WATER GUN THAT MAKES THING SHINY THE METEL BOX MAKES PEOPLE SHINY BY MAKING THEM METEL COULD YOU READ THIS WITHOUT SPACES LETS FIND OUT OK THANKS

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Hey Flare, what happened 2 exploding elephants. U haven't mentioned it lately. I noticed that nobody has tried 2 answer my lyric quiz. Come on everybody, guess, and then do the TRUFFLE SHUFFLE.

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You know I sort of glad school is starting maybe you guys can learn to spell and maybe pick up a few grammar tips.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

ok the mtv music awards is basically over but yea GREEN DAY IS THE BEST BAND EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i can't belive kelley clarkson won 2 awards TWO. those were supposed to be gwen's. i didnt see the best video of the year but i think its green day. the song that green day was nominated for and won was my last lyric quiz boulivard of broken dreams. i walk a lonely road the only road i walk i walk alone....joe i'm still in 8th grade but at least i can boss all the other 7th and 6th graders around. i cant belive u guys are glad school is starting i wish summer was 4ever...joe i'll still transfer at pioneer though. wavedashing is a type of movement which is speacial and really hard to do. has anyone ever gotten the bonus hammer throw?? i need that bonus and then i get the last trophy and beat the game yay. fox pwns all in sudden death and he is so cool when he is metallic. the metel box better not be banned. u guys should do other techniques other then wavedashing. y is the bomb-omb banned its a skill to catch it and to reflect it if ur character doesnt have a reflector then too bad. i think the 2 best characters on a team would be falco and marth or fox and marth. ppl shouldnt under estimate peach she is actually better then marth she has a counter a projectile which marth doesnt have she has a strong fast attack as one of her special moves and marth has to charge his up and she can float and falls the slowest. marth's weakness is no projectiles so in a 1v1 match if he is facing link i'd put my bets on link.
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what happened to everyone posting their records. joe did u get 160 in 150cc? thats pretty impressive.
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im sorry but marth easily would destroy link cause he is so much faster he destroys enemys with ariel attacks plus his counter and dancing blade attack combos make him much better then link could ever hope to be

and also marth is faster and stronger then peach and peachs conter is bad if it misses or you can just grab her then throw her then smash her in a 1v1 fight marth would definetly destroy peach

oh and 1 more thig saying that marth is inferior to any1 but fox is a horrible and compleaty untrue thing to say cause marth is better then every but fox

lol ur computer is screwed up but i got a new computer so i got 2 kickass computers both with internet access! u could go and buy a new keyboard u know. what school do u go to. i'm going to go to bed good luck in school everyone.
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i go to ann arbor open and marth is not inferior to peach the players might be different but marth could easily defeat defeat peach because 1. hes stronger and faster than her
2. peach doesnt have as many finishing moves as marth
3. peach is een more short-lived than marth
4. peach is an open target while floting
5. marth has a cape and capes are awesome
6. there is no 6
7. dancing blade is equiped with the abilty to cope with many diferent situations
8. marth has a sword and swords are shiny

i could buy a new keyboard but i spent all my money on video games and pictures of shiny swords that i lose oh and i dont have a clan but i i could easily make 1 myself

im sorry but i belive marths counter to be faster and it's better for combos and projectile attacks can be counterd or blocked or dodged or caught easily so 34 damage doesnt matter if it doesnt hit and her projectile takes time to pull out of the ground leaving her wide open

sravan i wish you hadnt said that cause now im not gonna be able to fall asleep cause i will be to busy thinking if ways that marth is superior to peach and i wont be able to stop cause im obsessed about this now so i cant give in to sleep and i have to go to school tomorrow but i dont care about that cause we dont do anything on the first day of school BTW what school do you go to

i go to greenhills and i am sitting here laughing at all of u cuz u have ur school today haha. eli PAX is over tell us how it was maybe one day the ann arbor library tournaments can turn into another PAX for the people in the midwest. flare 1/2 of ur things dont even matter and peach is so much stronger then marth. she has her up-smash and her side-smash and her down smash is part of a combo. her counter hits multiple times unlike marth's but its still as good because it stops all movement when she is getting knocked off the course just like reflector. haha everyone is in school and i'm sitting here and relaxing. eli rod wasent our sub joe's partner in melee was fly or w/e his name is. can u calculate the score with him as our sub?
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i tried wavedashing today and i found out thats its not that useful unless u use luigi. luigi can wavedash really long so its useful but marth cant do it as long maybe about half the distance but its still good to know that u acn do it with him.
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flare what school do u go to? i guess u are right link would lose cuz he is so slow. u guys gonna get the xbox 360 or the ps3? nintendo hasent said crap about the revolution. i hop the new ssbm has online play just like halo2. well if fox and marth fight in a 1v1 battle then i'd bet on fox cuz fox is tight. how come u guys dont use roy he isnt that slow but he is a lot more powerful. he is probably in the top 7 fastest characters and marth is 3rd to fox and falcon. im suprised many ppl didnt use peach at the tournament she is probably the best character in the game. i might get a new nickname how does Metallic McCloud sound? flare do u have a clan yet? tp2 is absolutly right mario kart is 99.9% luck and .1% skill. if me,duck,joe,derek,tp2,earnest da chicken,mini blin, and doomblaze were playing in baby park any one of us could win.
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marth is inferior to peach. her counter is faster the marth's counter and she has a projectile with a maximum damage of 34%. she can get back up easily with her float ability and parosal. her down smash is my favorite in the entire game in lightning melee its so fast. the best character to fight marth would either be peach,fox, or falcon. if u use falcon then u have to use ur up-B a lot because he can't counter that. oops i forgot falco to the list.
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wtf is wavedashing...sorry didnt see ur post until now about that tournament...couldnt go anyways cuz had to hang out with ppl today...me and derek both got 160 on the all cup...derek got his 9.4 second lap in time trials...mtv music awards are on sooooo im gonna go watch em...sravan are you a freshmen this year?
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how was ur first day everyone? i'm pr0 too
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My first day was good. I have good classes with good people. I'm kind of sad because I don't have any classes with any of my close friends, but I should still have a good year. (06 Seniors!!)

"There is no spoon." -Neo

wow i have the worst luck ever wow i juust can't wow well my first day goes like this
1. lose ds bad
2. met my new advisory class bad
3. learn schuadle for semester bad
4. listen to a craptastic concert bad
5. get headache bad
6. find out that my bus ride is an hour and a half at least i get out of school at 2:46 and this is the first thing ive done other then that my day ws fine and no homework
my day could of been a lot worse

I use to use C. Falcon but got tried of his recovery and weight so I swiched to Marth. I also play other characters for fun as listed above, but unless I improve someone up to par I will stick with Marth.

Oh, I mainly made this post to start a new page.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Falcon is ok. he is bad cuz he doesnt have any projectiles like marth. but he is really really fast. i know a secret with him...
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but if youre talking about the electric knee or how to double hit with items that you hold and melee attack with (ex. beam sword) please say so now

wow i just played a battle with me peach falco and dr.mario every1 had 1 lifeleft execpt dr. who had 2 peach was flying to her death i picked up a bomb-omb and threw it at falco who had just ko'd dr. thewn he used falco phantasm and the bomb exploded in my face too so we both died at the same time as peach so every1 came in second i posted this cause i didnt have anything to do so ya

none of those secrets.
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My first day was pretty good. I didn't get homework today and i wont get homework all week. Nobody has still tried 2 answer my lyric quiz. Come on, seriously, nobody knows. Where r u Eli? PAX is over. Give us some ideas from your expierience from PAX. Hey Earnist, r u extra crispy or original recipe, lol, congrats on 1st place, u wont be there for long.

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joe and derek are u guys going to come to the september tournament? do u guys have AIM? if so email me ur sns. noah are u still going to use DK?
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yea noah DK is an ape we evolved from them. falcon is so NOT pathetic he is just worse then marth. flare if u use falcon then i will cream u. did any1 use samus at the tournament samus is really cheap in sudden death but so is link.
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maybe maybe not depends how good you are at areial battles if you cant fight in the air you dont stand a chance trust me im electric knee happy meteor attack happy back punch attack and flippy kicky attacky happy

ur electric knee is like the slowest meteor attack in the game i can easily air dodge it. u should use pichu cuz like even though he isnt the best character if u beat someone with him u can laugh in their face.
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electric knee isnt a meteor attack his uber kick attack is his meteor you know the same 1 that gannonorf has only non-electrict and air dodge leaves you wide open and i should probley use some 1 like boswer to destroy them all that would be hilarious

gannondorf im not worried about its just falco cuz he is the opposite of fox. also marth isnt a big deal. if u beat them with peach u can say u got beat by a girl.
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i read this article about the ps3 and xbox 360 today and it compared the specs and it looks like the xbox 360 is the better choice. if u say ps3 then u are stupid.
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omfg i just played a game of solitare and i got 8979 with 8400 bonus and i did it in 83 seconds HOLY !@#$.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA flare r u kidding me? the revolution is gonna bee good but its gonna suck compared to the ps3 and 360. its so weak the 360 is 15x more powerful then it and 2x the ps3. plus the revolution is coming out in fall 2007 or something.
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In reply to by The Melancholy…

lol. i just found out that now they are selling the GCN for $100 with melee. didnt they have mkdd before? this is a really good deal probably one of the best 5 games on gamecube included with the GCN. anyway the revolution doesnt look like much except for its online play and ssbm2. im gonna go to bed have a good 2nd day everyone.
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In reply to by The Melancholy…

whats ur record for jigglypuff live event match #39? mine is 43.90 seconds. theres a really big trick to beating that one u dont have to do cold hard fighting. one redshell hit kills them lmao.
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i think its like 15-20seconds. did he do the egg roll and kill himself? someone reported online that they beat it in 0.56 seconds
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no you should be worried about gannon cause my friend used to fight me as fox all the time his down smash or his up b or his a attack are all really good agaist fox and hes two times as good as me using marth and falco is his worst caracter of those three

Eli, speak 2 us, I saw ur post on the other topics, tell us what r ur ideas?

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about recruiments if we cant get them to come on the blog can we get them to come to the next tournament and tell u that we recruited them?
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When will the new leaderboard show up? ejk said something about a new leaderboard. Will it show clan points including bonuses?

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In reply to by California Love

what would be on the new leaderboard all of the points are already displayed.
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its easy with fox,falco,yoshi, and jigglypuff. i beat it with dr.mario once. sometimes i use roy and just have fun countering everyone even though i'll lose. so flare how many people do u have in ur clan?
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In reply to by TheKoolAidGuy

anyone who played the post or corey atwater can u please tell me which character they used?
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So far, this whole page has had basically 3 people posting, me, sravan, and flare. Plus that one post from duck, but that's it. Sravan, Flare, I guess were the only ones who don't have homework problems and can find the time 2 post everyday. But I'm sure that more people will post on weekends.

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Sravan, the new leaderboard will have all the people's individual performances(The new leaderboard will post everybodys performance on MKDD and SSBM and 2 some people 4 the surprise round). And plus, I think this new leaderboard will show clan scores plus the bonus points 2 see who really has the most points.

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noah i havent started school yet i am starting tommarow, wow u are really slow. and basically all the other people are in high school so their homework is harder.
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Sravan, about the xbox 360 thing. The PS3 is <strong>supposed</strong> to be more powerful and can pump out more pixels than the xbox 360, it won't neccecarily be better since it all depends on the games. Also since the PS3's graphics are so good it is possible that if you want to play it to its full capacity, you might have to have HDTV. Because of that it might not do so well in its sales since most people do not have HDTV.
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if u get the xbox 360 for $400 then u get an HD cable that makes it HD. yea it pumps like 56bliiion and xbox does 33.9billion. the xbox 360's graphics are better and it has more space so u can store more games. both are backwards compatible so u can play GTA and halo2. but i mainly want the 360 cuz of halo3.
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Huh? You said that the PS3 can pump out more pixels thus you're saying it has better graphics. Then you say the xbox has better graphics. Anyway the PS3 is 100% backwards compatable like its PS2 predacessor, at least I think it is. I'm not sure about space but yeah, im pretty sure the xbox 360 can stor more. The xbox360 isn't 100% backwards compatable. From what I heard the Xbox360 can only play the "good" games as defined by Microsoft such as Halo2 on the xbox360.

What do you mean by HDTV cable? Don't you have to get a new TV for HDTV? Also not many are going to spend $400, they're probably gonna go for the $300. And if what you said is true about the xbox360's graphics being better than the PS3's then HDTV will be almost a necessity since to play the PS3 at full capacity you need HDTV and if the xbox360's graphics are better, without HDTV will be like crap capacity.

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galen the ps3 has 56 billion something not nessarily pixels i might have read the article wrong. if it can only play the good games then microsoft needs to secify the games that it can play and so far they havent dont that other then halo2. lmao galen the 399 deal includes a wireless controller, an e-net cord for live, a faceplate where u can choose the color of ur xbox 360, a headset for xbox live, the HD cable, and the 20 gigabyte detachable hard drivewhich is worth 99 seperatly and it has the consule. the 299 one has the consule a wired controller and a regular cable connecting to the tv. galen if u look in my AIM profile there is a link that takes u to a site where they compare the specs of both consules. the ps3's controller is screwed up anyway its so long. anyway i'm starting school tommarow so i gotta sleep early. we can all agree the rev is gonna SUCK.
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Sravan, I've said it before, when you make these kinds of arguments, the only thing you're doing is working for the marketers. If you think they have the slightest clue which system is going to have the best games, or that they even care, you might as well just call Microsoft and Sony and ask them which console you should buy. You are just repeating their spiel, meaningless and misleading numbers that don't tell you anything about how good the games are going to be, how easy the system will be to develop for, or how quickly the installed base is going to grow. That's what's going to determine how successful a console will be, not polygons, or fill rate, or memory bandwidth, or storage capacity.

And I don't agree that the Revolution is going to suck, especially since nobody yet knows anything substantial about it. Plus, when Super Smash Brothers Revolution comes out, Sravan, are you telling me you won't want it?

They were never handsome and often came
with a hormone imbalance manifested by corpulence,
a yodel of a voice or ears big as kidneys.

But each was brave. More than once a sidekick
has thrown himself in front of our hero in order
to receive the bullet or blow meant for that
perfect face and body.

Thankfully, heroes never die in movies and leave
the sidekick alone. He would not stand for it.
Gabby or Pat, Pancho or Andy remind us of a part
of ourselves,

the dependent part that can never grow up,
the part that is painfully eager to please,
always wants a hug and never gets enough.

Who could sit in a darkened theatre, listen
to the organ music and watch the best
of ourselves lowered into the ground while
the rest stood up there, tears pouring off
that enormous nose.

any thoughts or comments on this poem?

The $300 xbox360 will still cost you $400. It doesn't come with a memory card($40) or game ($50) but it comes with a standard AV cable the $400 360 comes with a HD-AV cable which if you don't have a HD TV or really new TV won't work and that 20 Gigabyte hard drive shouldn't be more then $30, $100 is flat extortion. The PS3 will also do HD output but looks to be $500 the lowest I saw was $465.

I can post It is just I have nothing to post about. There is nothing for me to say of importance until Eli makes a few posts/decisions.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

Apples to Apples on Graphics?
The Xbox 360's ATI graphics core also throws a wrench into our graphics comparison since it uses a new-fangled Unified Shader Architecture that mixes up pixel- and vertex-pipelines and makes comparison to older video card technology very difficult. The Xbox 360 graphics core may have 48-pipelines, but we don't know how powerful they are compared to dedicated pixel and vertex pipelines.

The PlayStation 3 has a pretty strong Nvidia graphics processor, but you can see how Sony may be afraid of the specification sheet comparison by the pipeline number conveniently omitted from the PS3 graphics specifications. We're guessing that the RSX graphics processors has a traditional, non-unified shader engine, so it likely has a smaller total "pipeline" number than the ATI chip. Even if the RSX's normal pipelines are more powerful than the Xbox 360's pipes, Sony doesn't want to risk printing a lower "pipeline" number since people won't understand that it isn't an apples-to-apples comparison.

So how many traditional pipelines does the RSX have? Sony has revealed that the RSX GPU has a 550MHz core clock and has over 300 million transistors. Sony has also stated that the chip is more powerful than two GeForce 6800 Ultra cards put together. Your first guess might be that Nvidia simply doubled the pipeline number on the 6800 Ultra to make the RSX, but you also have to remember that the Ultra only clocked in at 400MHz. If the "double" performance measurement is based on fill-rate performance rather than hardware, the clock speed increase up to 550MHz is clear sign that the hardware improvement isn't from a pure doubling of pipelines. We're guessing that the actual pipeline count is going to be at 24, which is about right for 300 million transistors and, at 550MHz, has just a slightly larger fill-rate than two GeForce 6800 Ultras clocked at 400MHz. Since the GeForce Ultra had 6 vertex pipelines, the RSX likely has 6 more vertex pipes in addition to the 24 pixel pipelines.

that is the graphics part of the article.

In reply to by TheKoolAidGuy

i cant post the specs cuz it pastes it in a really weird format cuz it has a picture and i dont want to change the format or type the specs manually. galen was right the xbox 360 is backwards compatible but it says limited on it so yea. even without the HD cable its still a good deal cuz u get all that other stuff.
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In reply to by TheKoolAidGuy

Specs that only a 2% of the people understand don't mean a thing if the people clap for a tomb raider game. Software makes a system live not hardware. The xbox will only have 1080i while the Ps3 has 1080i and 1080p. So the PS3 should give you a smoother Image.

"What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"

<em>So far, this whole page has had basically 3 people posting, me, sravan, and flare. Plus that one post from duck, but that's it. Sravan, Flare, I guess were the only ones who don't have homework problems and can find the time 2 post everyday. But I'm sure that more people will post on weekends.</em>

Dude, "this whole page" is less than two days long. That's because you three post 20 times a day and I have 30 new posts to read every single day I log on, and about 1-2 of them are relevant. Please keep all of the irrelevant posts off of here and if you have two different things to say, think ahead and put it all in one post. I come here every day and onoy post when I have something important to say. There's not exactly much opportunity for the rest of us to post with you guys generating 30 posts per day.

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